Tsuba Comparison - Same School?

[FletchSan]

Hi All,

 

I have two tsuba that share several similarities and I was wondering whether they could be from the same school?

 

They both appear to be Muromachi era and have a very similar shape.

 

The waves remind me of the Omori school - though I am very new to collecting tsuba so would appreciate some feedback on both pieces.

 

thanks,

 

Ben

 

 

[Geraint]

Hi Ben.

 

For comparison with Omori try here, https://tosogu-antiques.com/waves-2/ The distinctive undercutting and activity of Omori stand out.  You might also have a look here, http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/irogane3http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/irogane3

 

I particularly like the first one. 

 

All the best.

[FletchSan]

Thanks Geraint, much closer to the examples in the second link. So these would just be classified as ko-kinko and late muromachi or momoyama period?

 

Another image shows the detail of the waves on the first tsuba.

 

cheers,

 

Ben

[Curran]

classified as ko-kinko and late muromachi or momoyama period?

 

 

bingo.

[MauroP]

Hi Ben,
as Geraint also pointed out, surely nothing to do with Omori. I think ko-kinkō should be the right call for your tsuba.

[FletchSan]

Thanks all. I find it fascinating that so many different styles of pre-Edo tsuba are all categorized together as ko-kinko. I assume they are from several different schools though many of the makers and schools are just unknown?

 

I'm sure the two I have are probably not related other than their classification though they do seem very similar (to my eyes anyway), albeit the second being far less ornate.

[ROKUJURO]

Ben,

as has been pointed out, not 'all waves are created OMORI'. But I think the second TSUBA may profit from a professional cleaning as it will probably bring out a fine and regular NANAKO-JI.  

[MauroP]

Ben, actually both your tsuba share several features (for instance the vertically aligned nanako is quite uncommon), and the gilding is easily prone to get lost. On the questionable meaning of ko-kinkō you shoud enjoy http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/articles/Irogane_ko-tsuba.pdf