John A Stuart Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Hi All, this is the post card sent bt the NBTHK prior to the origami arriving. I know it refers to the sword being kantei'd as a valid Kaneyoshi (w/mei), but, what else does it say? I know not much. Thanks, John Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Hi John, Your 'Hozon Bango' Preservation Number is 883. Top right it says 'Tanto' above 'Kaneyoshi', and below that in red it says 'Go-kaku' or Pass. There is a line drawn through 'Tokubetsu Hozon' clarifying that at this stage they are only allowing you the first step of Regular Preservation. On the left it states that this is a notification of the facts stated on the right. The process of returning submitted object(s) will be started on June 30th. Nothing will move on Saturdays, Sundays, or National Holidays. Quote
John A Stuart Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Posted July 11, 2008 Beautiful Piers, I guess I will see it maybe in August first week. Thanks, John Quote
Guido Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 There is a line drawn through 'Tokubetsu Hozon' clarifying that at this stage they are only allowing you the first step of Regular Preservation.Actually it just means that it wasn't presented to TokuHo Shinsa because it was submitted only for Hozon. One can apply for both Hozon and Tokubetsu Hozon at the same time; in that case it would have a stamp either saying "pass" or "failed". Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 There is a line drawn through 'Tokubetsu Hozon' clarifying that at this stage they are only allowing you the first step of Regular Preservation.Actually it just means that it wasn't presented to TokuHo Shinsa because it was submitted only for Hozon. One can apply for both Hozon and Tokubetsu Hozon at the same time; in that case it would have a stamp either saying "pass" or "failed". Thanks Guido for the clarification. So, what the shop told me was a pack of porkie pies. I have now had two of mine pass Hozon, having been told that I had to go step by step... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Quote
Guido Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Piers, the application form can be marked "Hozon", "Tokubetsu Hozon" (if it already has papers), and "Hozon *and* Tokubetsu Hozon". The Shinsa fees add up to the same amount, whether you apply seperately or simultaniously, but I suspect the agent makes more money asking for handling fees twice ... Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Piers, the application form can be marked "Hozon", "Tokubetsu Hozon" (if it already has papers), and "Hozon *and* Tokubetsu Hozon". The Shinsa fees add up to the same amount, whether you apply seperately or simultaniously, but I suspect the agent makes more money asking for handling fees twice ... I suspect that you may be right, Guido. If you get the sword back in August, John, then you may expect to get the paperwork a couple of months after that. Lots of things to look forward to then! Quote
Stephen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 once more does it say any where on the sheet if it was the July shinsa? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 once more does it say any where on the sheet if it was the July shinsa? You asked John and he's not answering so far, Stephen. I don't know what Shinsa he put it into, and there is nothing else written on the sheet, but if they are returning swords starting from June 30th, as it says, then... Quote
Stephen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Thanks Bugsy We sent the Otanto ( viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3291 ) in June to make the July Shinsa, was getting my hopes up. Ill wait for John to get back on, thought it might have said on the paper. Hai Domo!! Quote
Guido Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Stephen, judging of the July Shinsa started only last Monday. Seems you were getting your hopes extremely high up . Quote
John A Stuart Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Posted July 11, 2008 Hi Stephen, Just back from the nights sleep. This was in the March shinsa. The backlog is immense according to Fujimoto san who did all the necessaries for me. John Quote
Stephen Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 LOL yes it was high hopes, just wish i had felt it. Quote
Jean Posted July 12, 2008 Report Posted July 12, 2008 post card sent bt the NBTHK John, I am Jealous, how comme NBTHK never sends me postcard to say "hello!!" Quote
John A Stuart Posted July 12, 2008 Author Report Posted July 12, 2008 Hey Jean, Do not be. It was sent to my agent and he forwarded it to me. :lol: As if I would get a hello. John who? John Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 12, 2008 Report Posted July 12, 2008 Just asked about the backlog and was told: "You will wait 6 months for a Juyo sword to come back from Shinsa. Oh, and 18 months for the paperwork." So, what are we complaining about guys? Quote
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