TheGermanBastard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Posted January 28, 2019 Show some Images of munemachi please. ... also tang ... and thicknes ... Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted January 28, 2019 Report Posted January 28, 2019 Greetings, So far I would agree with the thought that this is not an older blade (at this time), my guess would be shinshinto. With a chipped tip and a chip at the yokote it will be important that the polisher has excellent foundation polishing skills, especially when considering the importance of the o-kissaki to this sword, not to mention the chunk of change that will be invested (new habaki, new shirasaya, origami). Quote
nickm Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Posted January 28, 2019 munemachi.. Also only came with one menuki on the old tsuka.. wondering what it says? Quote
nickm Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Posted January 28, 2019 pics of the nakago.. also it is 5/16 inch at the munemachi Quote
TheGermanBastard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Posted January 28, 2019 Shinshinto. .. Approximatly 2.7k for the sword and another4k Quote
TheGermanBastard Posted January 28, 2019 Report Posted January 28, 2019 For the restoration / shinsa. Bob benson can give you good advice. You will to Take the decesssion Quote
nickm Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Posted January 28, 2019 I appreciate the information as always. I have already emailed Bob to see if I can send it his way.. Can't get over how formidable of a sword this is a. Understanding that I would be underwater in the restoration I still am having a hard time with the idea of not restoring it. For me these blades fall into categories of elegance and formidability. I recently bought a kozori daito from Bob that handles the elegant side of things and I'm super excited for this one to hopefully handle the formidable side. Again I very much appreciate you guys for the wealth of knowledge! Quote
TheGermanBastard Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 When i was a Kid in the 80s I thought the Toyota Supra to be a firmidable car... would i get a Rusty one restored? No. IG i had bought one back then i would have thought different. Maybe in some year you will looks swords with a diffetent view, too. Maybe those of US Who think it to be Shinshinto are wrong. Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 Again I appreciate the advice and respect the knowledge. Difference of opinion i.e. Not everything in the world for me is about money and some things deserve to be treated differently. I think it's a sad thing when these swords fall by the wayside because they are not old enough or not by a famous maker. I understand it from a monetary aspect but looking at the world as not only monetarily based it makes me sad.. But again I totally understand the point of view and understand that you disagree with mine. Of course I would have been happier if everyone said it was koto but again beautiful things are beautiful And I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. Good luck with the supra! Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 To reiterate I very much appreciate the knowledgeable opinions of yourself Luis and those that join you to teach we lessors in the field. For me I do not really get into this for monetary gain as much as I do for the collecting idea. I have been called something of a black hole in that once I get something I pretty much keep it.. I will have a nice estate sale one day.. Quote
Blazeaglory Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Nick, looking closely at the photos, the hamon doesn't really change shape going into the boshi, which indicates a Koto blade to me. I can't tell if the ana are chiseled or drilled, but I really don't think this is Shinshinto. What is the nagasa? I was thinking the same thing Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Beg to differ as i have Shinshinto Masayuki that is exactly like this but zaimei, ubu. It is with Tanobe sensei but looks to be Seki Shinshinto at the moment (the Masayuki that is) Quote
Blazeaglory Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Either way I like this blade! Im biased towards Koto, so I guess I jump to conclusions. But I honestly wouldn't think it was that new. Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 Beg to differ as i have Shinshinto Masayuki that is exactly like this but zaimei, ubu. It is with Tanobe sensei but looks to be Seki Shinshinto at the moment (the Masayuki that is) I appreciate the replies and would love to see some pics of the masayuki if you have any for comparisons sake Quote
Surfson Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Does menuki say Tadahide? You need to reorient it by rotating it to the right. Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 or i thought so anyway.. ill try again Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 told it may be chu no tamashii in translation section Quote
Surfson Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Top kanji looks like Tada to me. Can't tell about the rest. Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 also wondering about the tsuba.. It used to have some kind of gold decoration running along the side but it seems to have been lost to the sands of time. I definitely like the wood grain and figure it is nothing special but wondering if it is shin shinto as well Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 also came with a saya in bad shape with this 2 piece kogai. First for me so fun as well. Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/21641-any-help-with-this-masayuki-saku/?fromsearch=1 Quote
nickm Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Posted January 29, 2019 http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/21641-any-help-with-this-masayuki-saku/?fromsearch=1 I appreciate it. Beautiful sword. Good luck with the shinsa! Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted January 30, 2019 Report Posted January 30, 2019 Nick, please don't try to extrapolate anything about any blade from its koshirae & tosogu. The chance that anything is original is almost zero. Even the Samurai changed things on & off, & today's dealers think nothing about selling off parts to make a profit. 1 Quote
nickm Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Posted January 30, 2019 Understood. of course I am much more interested in the sword but again find it all pretty interesting. Look forward to seeing if Bob will work on it Quote
SteveM Posted January 30, 2019 Report Posted January 30, 2019 忠之魂 Chu-no-tamashii. The reading for 忠 is "tada" if it is used in a name. However, if it is used as anything other than a pronoun the reading is "chu" (long u... for some reason I can't input diacritical marks on this keyboard). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%BF%A0 (Actually, the reading can also be "chu" even if the word is a pronoun.) Quote
Surfson Posted January 30, 2019 Report Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks Steve. What is the meaning of that phrase? Quote
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