george trotter Posted January 1, 2019 Report Posted January 1, 2019 Not sure if I'm doing the right thing posting here, but... I need a canvas or suede scabbard cover for this sword (see pic of my sword/scabbard and another pic of the same type with the type of scabbard cover I need). Can anyone point me to where I might find one? I suppose some would have a leather reinforce at the throat and bottom end? Let me know please? Regards, 2 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted January 1, 2019 Report Posted January 1, 2019 Looks like a nice blade George, who made it? Quote
vajo Posted January 1, 2019 Report Posted January 1, 2019 Wow nice sword George. As Neil said sometimes on ebay are canvas cover to find. Maybe you can use a leather cover? Its more easier to find. https://www.ebay.de/itm/WW2-Japanese-Sword-Shin-Gunto-Leather-Combat-Cover-Locking-Non-110/372545368383?hash=item56bd6f313f:g:W3YAAOSw1KRcH667:rk:1:pf:0 1 Quote
george trotter Posted January 10, 2019 Author Report Posted January 10, 2019 Sorry for the delay in answering you Neil and Chris S. Blade is by unknown smith named Takashima Kunihide of Kyoto. Very nice sword but nothing known about him except that he lived in Fushimi where the Fushimi Inari Shrine is and he was RJT. And yes, I always keep an eye on ebay, but thought it just might be worth asking here too. RJT star stamp mei says : Fushimi ju Takashima Kunihide saku. (date is 8/1944). Hamon is Notare with ko-midare but rarely is easy to see in pics because it has a WWII period hadori polish....oh for sashi-komi. .Regards, 1 Quote
Bazza Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 Ummmmm, George san, why must you have a leather cover?? I understand these were put on for combat zones and were no doubt (?) therefore meant to be taken off when hostilities ceased. Is it not so that many shingunto koshirae never had leather covers??? Barry (Head on the Block) Thomas aka BaZZa. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted January 11, 2019 Report Posted January 11, 2019 Ummmmm, George san, why must you have a leather cover?? I understand these were put on for combat zones and were no doubt (?) therefore meant to be taken off when hostilities ceased. Is it not so that many shingunto koshirae never had leather covers??? Barry (Head on the Block) Thomas aka BaZZa. Barry, if you look closely at his first pic, you can see that his saya is bare wood. It was originally covered in either leather or canvas (which is what he’s looking for). The wood isn’t painted so it was meant to be covered. 2 Quote
george trotter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Posted January 13, 2019 Hi Baz 'n' Bruce, Yes, saya would have had a canvas or leather cover, possibly with an attached carry ring. When I got this the saya was "naked" so I just thought if there was a spare cover out there it might be nice to put one back...it's no big deal...just kinda like to keep things "complete" (must be the nerd in me). BTW the saya is painted in a sort of "thickish" water-proof? stuff...not hard lacquer, but would seal any joins, edges etc. from moisture. Hope you are both well and have sobered up after all your new year "frolics" haha. regards, Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 13, 2019 Report Posted January 13, 2019 Ebay is certainly the way to go, usually quite a few "Combat" sayas going for cheap. Quote
Bazza Posted January 13, 2019 Report Posted January 13, 2019 Barry, if you look closely at his first pic, you can see that his saya is bare wood. It was originally covered in either leather or canvas (which is what he’s looking for). The wood isn’t painted so it was meant to be covered. Bruce, Oh Dreary Me - I didn't look at it closely, to my shame. Of course if its bare wood it needs a cover. I thought without thinking (one of my frequent mental states!) that it was a metal cover. Sighhhh. Barry (Head in the Basket) Thomas. aka BiZar... 1 Quote
David Flynn Posted January 14, 2019 Report Posted January 14, 2019 Hi George, have you tried Doug Austin? Cheers Quote
george trotter Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Posted January 14, 2019 Hi Baz...you are forgiven, after all it is just a photo...sometimes hard to "read" a surface. Dave, yes, I look at Doug's site from time to time...good stuff, but not yet seen "the one"...I'll always keep looking, but you know how it is... Regards, Quote
David Flynn Posted January 14, 2019 Report Posted January 14, 2019 Contact him George, he doesn't always advertise things. Quote
george trotter Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Posted January 16, 2019 Thanks Dave...I will. Regards, Quote
David Flynn Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Hi George, https://www.ebay.com/itm/wwII-Japanese-Army-officer-sword-LEATHER-FOR-SCABBARD-sword-COLLECTIBLE/113569491134?hash=item1a7144e8be:g:RskAAOSwkHxcQRlg:rk:2:pf:0 Quote
Dave R Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 I see issues with the above linked piece. 'Nuff said. Quote
Brian Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 I think it may be for a wakizashi, but either way it's made for a civilian saya 1 Quote
vajo Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 As for the sword i think only a canvas cover will work. Never saw a Type3 sword in a leather saya. Maybe it is better to wait. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Best to avoid that seller regardless. Quote
Dave R Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Generally speaking Riinji Seishiki, aka type 3's with RJT blades had lacquered wooden scabbards. Usually lacquer over paper or fabric glued to the wood. I think you are missing a Haikan and an Ishizuki rather than a field cover. Saya that were meant to have covers were usually unfinished in any way, or had a quick and dirty coat of black lacquer usually faded now to brown. http://ohmura-study.net/753.html Quote
Daniel Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 As for the sword i think only a canvas cover will work. Never saw a Type3 sword in a leather saya. Maybe it is better to wait.Well, here’s mine... 5 Quote
Dave R Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 That is a rather excellent piece indeed...... signed and dated? Quote
vajo Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 Thanks for the picture Daniel. Looks really great. With canvas cover. (Not my picture) I think with that ito from George sword it would look better with canvas. Only my personal taste. I see some black haikan type 3 on Japanese offers in ebay last time. This is not a problem i think Quote
Daniel Posted January 19, 2019 Report Posted January 19, 2019 That is a rather excellent piece indeed...... signed and dated? Mei: Akitaka Date: Showa ju hachi nen ichi gatsu kitsu jitsu (one lucky day in January 1943) Regards Daniel 1 Quote
BANGBANGSAN Posted January 20, 2019 Report Posted January 20, 2019 Canvas cover is much harder to find than leather one. Quote
george trotter Posted January 21, 2019 Author Report Posted January 21, 2019 Thanks for your comments guys...very helpful. Just for info on this type of Rinji Seishiki scabbard, it is definitely made this way. No sign of ever having had a a haikan or an ishidzuki. It is "painted" with some light brown/yellow (I presume) waterproof lacquer. All original. It may have had a canvas cover like the ones shown in a couple of the pics here, if so thee cover must have had a reinforced leather top section with its own haikan strap and ring and of course, it would have had a reinforced leather section on the bottom. Of course, it may have been leather cover also, with its own built in leather suspension ring. I can assure you there is definitely no rub mark to show that it ever had a metal band/ring type haikan on the scabbard. I will just keep my eye open for a cover...one might turn up. Thanks to all. Regards, Quote
IJASWORDS Posted January 21, 2019 Report Posted January 21, 2019 George, as some alluded, canvas covers and suede covers are very rare these days. Took me years o find one. 2 Quote
george trotter Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Posted January 24, 2019 Now that would be just what I'm looking for Neil. can you show us the top section also? Thanks, Quote
IJASWORDS Posted January 24, 2019 Report Posted January 24, 2019 These things have got so battered over the years, that most were (unfortunately) removed and discarded. I got this to preserve for posterity. 5 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted January 25, 2019 Report Posted January 25, 2019 And George, you may also find the canvas tzuka all weather cover. 1 Quote
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