Socket/fukuro Yari. Latest Buy

[Chishiki]

Hi folks. I just want to share my latest aquisition. I just received the yari and am so happy with it. Only small, overall about 138cm. Cutting edges is only about 11cm. Signed Suzuki Yamato no Kami Sukemasa (thanks for the previous translation help). The patina on the tang, the lovely mounts. I think a good find. Any just wanted to share.

 

Mark

[Chishiki]

A few more pics

[DRDave]

I like it.  Short, but to the point.  Congratulations!

[Ken-Hawaii]

Very well-preserved, Mark - good buy!

[Bugyotsuji]

In perfect condition, short, sharp, sweet and sexy.

[Brian]

I have a think for fukuro yari. My 2 aren't mounted or signed, or in polish, but I still love them. Must have been tricky to make, and I always enjoy looking at them. Well done! That is a beautiful example

[Chishiki]

I have a think for fukuro yari. My 2 aren't mounted or signed, or in polish, but I still love them. Must have been tricky to make, and I always enjoy looking at them. Well done! That is a beautiful example

Thanks everyone. Brian I find these interesting too, a friend has one on his wall and my eyes always gravitate to it. I had to have one. Generally I think yari are undervalued. I wonder about the construction method and why this type of yari was made. One online info says they were easier to remount if the shaft was broken. This doesn’t apply to this yari, it’s not a field weapon.

 

I snapped this up off yahoo. So many hours searching that site, a few wins and losses from there. A minefield, in this case I was lucky.

 

Mark

[Bugyotsuji]

Mark, what other use would a spear have if not designed for the battlefield? (You can find roughly-made blades for wild animals like boar, but this is not one of those. ) These small blades were often mounted on long poles, and it is said here that if you hit the eyes of your opponent then that particular bout is instantly won. The pole you have is quite possibly a later mount.

[Ken-Hawaii]

This spear was most likely made for CQB (close-quarter battle), Mark. Boar spears would have a cross-bar to keep the pig from pushing its way a;ong the shaft.

[Chishiki]

Mark, what other use would a spear have if not designed for the battlefield? (You can find roughly-made blades for wild animals like boar, but this is not one of those. ) These small blades were often mounted on long poles, and it is said here that if you hit the eyes of your opponent then that particular bout is instantly won. The pole you have is quite possibly a later mount.

Hi, thanks for your input. Agreed the mounts are later than the yari. You are an advanced collector living in Japan so I won’t dispute what you say. The opening of the socket is only 19mm inside width, so considering that I thought it was made for a smaller shaft. On the battlefield i thought something more robust would be used for penetrating armour. I assumed this was an indoor, confined space yari. Live and learn

 

Mark

[Chishiki]

This spear was most likely made for CQB (close-quarter battle), Mark. Boar spears would have a cross-bar to keep the pig from pushing its way a;ong the shaft.

Interesting info thanks. I will,set about learning more about yari. Never paid much attention other than obtaining a few examples. Mark

[Ruben]

Hi Gentlemen,

 

Hello Mark, nice find I realy like this one, enjoy it.

As Piers said, I too believe that short blades go with long poles in that case.

Reason I think is the mass. Before impact the blade is making a big circular motion, if spearman want it to do so.

Thats nearly impossible to catch by the eye when beeing attacked, also this kind of technic could shatter a sword blade maybe, or just move it out of the way.

Wanted to share this short clip:

 

 

Greetings

 

ruben

[Geraint]

Dear All.

 

Some years ago I had an inoshishi no yari, or boar spear.  Very distinct form, I will try to dig out a photo.  While European boar spears,and indeed some hunting swords, had a cross bar or a toggle part way down to prevent the boar coming down the spear and getting the hunter, the hadome or parrying bars sometimes seen on Yari do not have a connection to inoshishi no yari.

 

All the best.

[Chishiki]

Hi Gentlemen,

 

Hello Mark, nice find I realy like this one, enjoy it.

As Piers said, I too believe that short blades go with long poles in that case.

Reason I think is the mass. Before impact the blade is making a big circular motion, if spearman want it to do so.

Thats nearly impossible to catch by the eye when beeing attacked, also this kind of technic could shatter a sword blade maybe, or just move it out of the way.

Wanted to share this short clip:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZHHKU1DPc

 

Greetings

 

ruben

Thanks, very interesting. There was a youtube clip following it showing kendo championships. The referees had a red and whitle flag. Do you know what each means? Goes to show that most sword fights would be over very quickly. Mark

[Ruben]

Thanks, very interesting. There was a youtube clip following it showing kendo championships. The referees had a red and whitle flag. Do you know what each means? Goes to show that most sword fights would be over very quickly. Mark

 

You are welcome Mark,

 

it is interesting.

What strikes me most is how this people taking such kind of thrusts on regular basis.

With the shinai some times it can be little nasty too, but nothing to worry anymore.

But with this heavy pole,...little scary I think.

I don´t remeber the vid, or never saw it but...

There are different situations or reasons why two people crossing swords.

The red Flag shows a valid point for the red player and white for the white one, if 2 referees saw the same thing and reacting in the very same moment so to say.

It´s one of the hardest part to be a good judge, first someone has be a good kendoist and a trusted person.

Valid point just means valid point (Ippon) under certain rules, or better to say the first strike that can be counted.

Kendo maybe should be seen as it is, as martial art, or just an art were different people trying to practice some kind of "more or less" uniform technics.

They are found to work best in this context for now.

But it is developing constantly. Some people even see it as sport.

Others have very conservativ fews or ideas, like me for example.

How a real sword fight would be,... better not to think about.

It shure could last for some time in the worst case, not like ippon shobu and over.

 

Greetings

 

ruben   

[Chishiki]

You are welcome Mark,

 

it is interesting.

What strikes me most is how this people taking such kind of thrusts on regular basis.

With the shinai some times it can be little nasty too, but nothing to worry anymore.

But with this heavy pole,...little scary I think.

I don´t remeber the vid, or never saw it but...

There are different situations or reasons why two people crossing swords.

The red Flag shows a valid point for the red player and white for the white one, if 2 referees saw the same thing and reacting in the very same moment so to say.

It´s one of the hardest part to be a good judge, first someone has be a good kendoist and a trusted person.

Valid point just means valid point (Ippon) under certain rules, or better to say the first strike that can be counted.

Kendo maybe should be seen as it is, as martial art, or just an art were different people trying to practice some kind of "more or less" uniform technics.

They are found to work best in this context for now.

But it is developing constantly. Some people even see it as sport.

Others have very conservativ fews or ideas, like me for example.

How a real sword fight would be,... better not to think about.

It shure could last for some time in the worst case, not like ippon shobu and over.

 

Greetings

 

ruben

 

Thanks Ruben. Here is the link to the kendo video I watched. I would be dead in one second.

https://youtu.be/kzhSVYSC5ds

[Ruben]

Thanks Ruben. Here is the link to the kendo video I watched. I would be dead in one second.

 

Aha,

 

8 dan all Japan championships.

Very competitiv on the highest level.

Good to watch 8 dans. Watching is important too, first it seems bid boring.

But there is a lot to it, when finding somthing usefull at the right time.

Good thing is in Kendo the basic princibles are clear and allways apply.

Doing it is another thing. For example keeping the feet dead straight.

It is most important to attack in a straight manner.

On all levels people don´t do it, or can not. Should be the easiest thing.

And so on. It´s just like in daily life. How often we heard "do it, ...just do it"..."why don´t you do it?".

We don´t know sometimes, or it´s too late by than.

Failing in Kendo is for free and necessary to some degree.

Getting hit in a thrilling situation can be most interesting and leaves me some times with an stupid smile from ear to ear.

  

Watch Kyoto Takai if you are interested.

I´am curious what you will find,... differences, what kind of.

 

Don´t know if we went of topic too much.

If so, please admin just let us know.

 

Mark,

 

If you have questions I´am more than happy trying to help out as far as possible, just pm me.

I can share my small video collection as well, there are not too many special vids of the highest grade I found so far.

 

Ps.: You would´t be dead in a second, it would be your wish by than, joke

 

Greetings