Jacques Posted June 16, 2008 Report Posted June 16, 2008 Hi, Can some one help me? I need the translation of which is written on the right of the picture Thanks in advance Quote
Brian Posted June 16, 2008 Report Posted June 16, 2008 I am sure Jacques is looking for the rest of the text on the right too? This looks like a very interesting and early "analysis" of sugata? Any info on the source? Brian Quote
Jacques Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Posted June 16, 2008 Hi, I am sure Jacques is looking for the rest of the text on the right too?This looks like a very interesting and early "analysis" of sugata? Any info on the source? Brian Right Brian :D Comes from the Shinto Taikan by Limura, and seems to be a method to calculate the kissaki lenght. Quote
Guest reinhard Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 Hi Jacques, Here's another one for comparison (you might know already). I find this kind of visualizing sugata principles confusing, because of their extremely simplifing way. They must have been helpful to people with very limited access to pictorial resources, but are completely outdated nowadays. They are interesting historical reminiscences though. reinhard Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 Hi, Can some one help me? I need the translation of which is written on the right of the picture Thanks in advance What is written on the right is just a description of what is drawn on the left. When I have a few minutes I will translate it, if someone has not already done it, but you will be surely be disappointed. The photo is not very good so I cannot be 100% sure on a couple of the Kanji. You are forcing me to make educated guesses! :lol: Do you still want the translation?　 Edit. Apologies. You can click on the picture and then click again to make it even bigger and easier to read. I take it back about the 'poor photo'... ! Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 First attempt. The Japanese is quite convoluted and the translation was actually much harder than I thought it would be at first glance! Can someone please help polish this for me. Chapter One. Fundamental Principles behind the appearance of the blade. Saki sword tips of Nihonto, which take their creations naturally from original circles, appear in a fan diagram, from the right, as Dai-saki, Chu-saki, Sho-saki. How the appearances of the complete blades are calculated proportionally from circles. From the right, Tachi, Tanto, Wakizashi, blade shapes which appear naturally. Quote
Nobody Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 Saki sword tips of Nihonto, which take their creations naturally from original circles, appear in a fan diagram, from the right, as Dai-saki, Chu-saki, Sho-saki. Piers, Your translation is excellent. The translation was difficult for me. I still cannot 100 % understand the Japanese text, as it is grammatically incorrect. (But I might be wrong and it is just old-fashioned Japanese?) [nonliteral translation] A Kissaki of a Katana is basically compared to a fan shape which is naturally cut out from (coaxial) circles. And the original shape is completed as the kissaki of a Katana. From the right, O-kissaki, Chu-kissaki, Ko-kissaki. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 17, 2008 Report Posted June 17, 2008 Moriyama sama, thank you for rescuing me! Quote
Jacques Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Posted June 17, 2008 Hi, Many thanks gentlemen, to day i will go to sleep less ignorant, and i thank every day which bring me its little dose of knowledge Quote
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