BIG Posted October 21, 2018 Report Posted October 21, 2018 He brought back from Japan ... https://www.eisenstrassen.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Messer-und-Schwerter-Stadtmuseum-Steyr.pdf and as usual the museum forget the swords.. Best 1 Quote
BIG Posted October 21, 2018 Author Report Posted October 21, 2018 Yes, but the swords..MARKUS the only man to save the collection.. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Museum_der_Stadt_Steyr_-_Masamune-Schwert.jpg Best Quote
BIG Posted October 21, 2018 Author Report Posted October 21, 2018 and.. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Museum_der_Stadt_Steyr_-_Jasutzuna.jpg Best Quote
vajo Posted October 21, 2018 Report Posted October 21, 2018 BIG, that masamune sword, who has ever seen it in detail? Are there pictures from the blade? Btw: the "Jasutzuna" has a suspicious scratch. 1 Quote
BIG Posted October 21, 2018 Author Report Posted October 21, 2018 Hi Chris, found only that you tube. May be Markus visited the exhibition? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EIohnKwugWo Best Quote
BIG Posted October 21, 2018 Author Report Posted October 21, 2018 and here is a better pic.. https://allthatsinteresting.com/masamune-sword Best Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted October 21, 2018 Report Posted October 21, 2018 Kind of hard to pay much attention to a Web-site that says Masamune & Muramasa had a "legendary rivalry," considering they lived a couple of hundred years apart.... Quote
vajo Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 I see no proof for any of that smith. I think for a museum is it nice to have a piece which is named to masamune, muramasa or others. Bad polish condition with tsuka. These could be anything. What we talking about? A museum with a piece that could be more worth than all other pieces inside? And no one cares? Sollingen Museum is a red towel for me after all that replica talk with S. Roth. Leaving the science path is a death for the reputation of a museum. Quote
Guest Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 Hi Ken., The Masamune Muramasa legendry rivalry story may come from the Wikipedia entry under Masamune: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masamune The source for that may be an article about the legendary rivalry between Masamune and his mad, bad and dangerous to know student Muramasa in a late 1970's issue of Black Belt Magazine, when its ethos changed from the glory days of the 1960's, when it was still run by Uyehara san. Those pesky editors of Wiki..... Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 What province is Soshin? It's the province where the pictures of signatures aren't rotated. Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 I think the sayagaki on "Jasutzuna" says 相州住定? Sōshū jū Sada? (could be mune for last character but I didn't find Sadamune from Sagami with these kanji) 1 Quote
Surfson Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 I think that Masamune and Muramasa do have a kind of rivalry. At least now - one for "most famous sword maker". I notice that the mei of Muramasa is upside down in that document (not to mention that his name is misspelled). This document was not prepared by Markus, I assume! 1 Quote
vajo Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 Museum Stadt Steyr: Kulturamtsleiter Augustin Zineder mit einem der japanischen Schwerter, die bis zu 100.000 Euro wert sind https://www.nachrichten.at/oberoesterreich/weihnachten/Schwerter-der-Samurais-zum-Advent;art115283,1244441,B Quote
BIG Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Posted October 22, 2018 ..there is no law against that... Best Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 So the Masamune is confirmed real? Why is he touching the Nagasa...why? Quote
DavidF Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 I hope he wipes it down and oils it afterwards. Quote
vajo Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 Rayhan i don't think that the curators in mixed local museums are well trained in handling and preserving Nihonto. They all are studied history or something else. They know much about timelines but when you look on the collection mostly seen are european swords and these are all different in handling to Japanese edged weapons. The swords blade patination is there a sign of age. This is what i see often in sword forums when they have meetings with european swords. Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 Is the Masamune confirmed real? Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 22, 2018 Report Posted October 22, 2018 Without any modern certification I would be skeptical. Quote
Markus Posted October 23, 2018 Report Posted October 23, 2018 I'm not involved in any part of that collection/publications. However, I was once invited by the Mayor of Steyr to view and possibly assess the Japanese blades in the Petermandl'sche Messersammlung but that was exactly right before I moved to the US so it never worked out, unfortunately. Quote
Surfson Posted October 24, 2018 Report Posted October 24, 2018 I predicted that Markus. You would never have allowed the boo boos in that document! Tell the group a little about what you are doing these days...... Cheers, Bob Quote
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