fan Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 hi all, i have this little wak, slender, with a suguha. the limited resources i have does not have anything that match the strokes on this signature. can anyone peg this one? thanks. eric Quote
fan Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Posted October 20, 2006 hi grey, yes it is kanemoto. my question is, when i tried to match it with other signatures, the lower strokes of my "moto" does not look like the lower strokes of other "moto". the typical ones have a sharper bend at the lower right stroke. so this not one of hte big guys, but does this match up with anyone in particular? eric Quote
Grey Doffin Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Guess you knew that. The closest match in Fujishiro's Koto-hen is listed as Kanemoto, Kodai. Kodai means unknown later generation, I believe. The nakago definitely looks Seki, but later than Sue-Koto. Hope this helps. Grey Quote
Bungo Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 not a sword dude, but the file marks on the top part of the nakago indicates shinto or later, yes ? milt The ronin Quote
fan Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Posted October 20, 2006 yes, the file mark is typical mino shinto or later. the clarity of the mei cut also suggest a nto particularly old blade. eric Quote
Mike Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 The point is that even later generation of Mino Kanemoto put sanbonsugi hamon, and you mentioned suguha, so this is something you have to check. Mike Quote
fan Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Posted October 20, 2006 hi mike, do you mean that they use sanbonsugi exclusively? the condition of the blade prevents me from seeing clearly the sugu to see if there are togari. but even if togari is present, does it still seem unlikely that the kanemoto line would have anything to do with it? eric Quote
Bungo Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 I had an O-suriage katana, very slender ( but in proportion ) , suguha hamon with one TINY " bump " in the hamon near the hamachi area............ shinsa by NTHK to sue-koto MINO !!!! I was hoping Bungo ( just a joke ) milt THE ronin Quote
Mike Posted October 20, 2006 Report Posted October 20, 2006 Did they specific made an attribute to Kanemoto school Mike Quote
fan Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Posted October 20, 2006 milt, i have a sugu katana that nthk put to late generation tadayoshi den. however, i almost think i detect a very mild bump on the sugu as well. and the yasuri is kesho, not typical hizen. but i kind of like the tadayoshi den attribution...... eric Quote
pcfarrar Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 milt, i have a sugu katana that nthk put to late generation tadayoshi den. however, i almost think i detect a very mild bump on the sugu as well. and the yasuri is kesho, not typical hizen. but i kind of like the tadayoshi den attribution......eric Any chance of seeing a picture of this blade? Quote
fan Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 hi peter, here are some pics. can really find the togari in these. Quote
fan Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 CANT really find the togari in these Quote
pcfarrar Posted October 21, 2006 Report Posted October 21, 2006 Thanks for the pics! Looks like a very nice sword. I have a small mumei wak that I suspect might be hizen work. It's late shin-shinto and has kesho yasurimei. I wanted to see how it compared with yours. Quote
fan Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Posted October 21, 2006 hi peter, here is a pic of the ji and shinogi ji area. the grain in shinogi ji is different from the ji area. however, it is the finess of the jihada that prompted the nthk to determine the sword a hizen sword. eric Quote
Bungo Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0033739326 http://www.geocities.jp/kanetoyo2666/k.html some examples of what's out there in e-bay land. milt THE ronin Quote
Bungo Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 wonder what's that " pin " is about on top of the oshigata room logo ? I can read the kanji but bet few of you can ( except the ironchef and fan but they are alrerady married )........ milt THE ronin Quote
Mike Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 Here is an interesting article by DB on the relationship between Kanesada and Kanemoto schools. http://nihonto.ca/nosada/index.html Mike Quote
Mike Posted October 22, 2006 Report Posted October 22, 2006 Also a photo of my Mino kanemoto katana. Mike Quote
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