Bryce Posted October 10, 2018 Report Posted October 10, 2018 G'day Guys, I have been using my newly acquired and very limited kantei skills to identify an ubu, mumei blade I own. I am thinking it is probably Kanbun Shinto following the Yamashiro tradition. The blade came to me mounted in shin gunto koshirae. Dimensions: Nagasa 69.5cm Sori 1.2cm Motohaba 3.2cm Sakihaba 2.2cm Kasane 0.7cm Kissaki 3.0cm The boshi looks Ko-maru, thin suguha hamon with ko-nie and dense itame/mokume hada tending to masame in the ha (I think). There is abundant ji nie and chikei. I get glimpses of activity in the hamon, but because it is very fine, I can't really see it with the naked eye and it only becomes obvious when I zoom in on photos. I would appreciate any help you guys can give me. Cheers, Bryce 2 Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Oh boy another kantei! It is kanbun suguta and i see tight ko-itame with suguha hamon, lots of nie activity with bright nioiguchi. At first glance it could be a Hizen blade but after looking at the boshi and nakago maybe more echizen. A picture under the habaki would be good to see where the hamon ends in relation to the hamachi. Quote
Ray Singer Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 I also think this looks like like a Hizen-to. Quote
DRDave Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Reflective surfaces and lighting often fool me... Iori-mune ? Nice looking blade. Quote
Bazza Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 OTTOMH at first glance it looks like a Hizentou, agreed. But then I look at the nakagojiri and I don't see Hizen - unless it is a waki-Hizen I'm not so familiar with. Then I look at the hada and it seems too loose to be a mainline Hizentou... Mmmmm. VERY nice pickup, though. Oi loiks it. Quote
Guest Rayhan Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Few more pics under the habaki, shinogiji and mune please Quote
mywei Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Unusual to have a mumei ubu Hizento methinks? Could also be Bungo Takada 1 Quote
Bryce Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Posted October 11, 2018 G'day Guys, Thanks for your replies. I can't post any photos under the habaki, because I haven't been able to get it off yet! I have tried tapping it with wooden tools and holding it and banging the nakago jiri down on to some wood, but so far it hasn't budged. Haven't tried hot water yet. When I have some time I will give it another go. Cheers, Bryce Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Bryce, you did a good job of identifying the characteristics of your blade. I don't see any mokume hada, but I can see where you might think so, until you've seen a lot more blades. Good job, & keep up the kantei practice! Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Nakago looks Bungo Takada, blade looks Hizen. Both schools were known to work together. Quote
Gakusee Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Hada is just quite not refined enough for Hizen Quote
vajo Posted October 11, 2018 Report Posted October 11, 2018 Someone told me mumei Shinto in Yamashiro tradition is like another John Doe. Nice looking hozon blade. Quote
Bryce Posted October 12, 2018 Author Report Posted October 12, 2018 G'day Guys, Here are a few more shots of the hada and mune. Cheers, Bryce Quote
Bryce Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Posted October 26, 2018 G'day Guys, I had a bit of time recently so was able to move the habaki. The nakago length is 21 cm and the yasurime is sujikai. After your comments about it maybe being Hizen, I did a bit of research and Hizen does sound like a good fit for it. The only possible detractor is the sujikai yasurime, rather than the more common kiri, but there seem to be plenty of examples with sujikai as well. Any more thoughts? Cheers, Bryce Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted October 26, 2018 Report Posted October 26, 2018 Still going with Bungo Takada. Could we see the Koshirae? Quote
Bryce Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Posted October 26, 2018 Here you go John. Cheers, Bryce 3 Quote
Bryce Posted October 31, 2018 Author Report Posted October 31, 2018 G'day Guys, I have noticed that the blade has a couple of small mokume burls that have a darker/flatter "look" inside them. Is this likely to be shingane showing thru the skin steel? Cheers, Bryce Quote
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