Does This Look Like The Real Deal To You Guys?

[Matt300ZXT]

There's a somewhat local guy on a firearms site that has this up for sale or trade for firearms.  I was curious if this looked like a genuine gunto to you guys.  

 

Here is what he has posted:

 

Pre 43 "hand forged" shin-gunto  wwii "jr. Officer" sword, wood in handle and wrap have been replaced but rest is original ww2 issue. I had it up before but took it down due to wanting to have it professionally checked out, I was told it was made in late 41 to early 42 and valued it at $750 to $800.now I know a bit more about it I know a fair price range to be in, swords in this condition 100% original sell for $1200 to $1500 daily!

 

[AndyMcK]

Chinese copy, stay clear of it!

 

-Antti

[Matt300ZXT]

How can you tell just out of curiosity? If he had it appraised and they didn't catch it, I may need to make him aware of it.

[Ray Singer]

Many good pointers here.

 

http://www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Matt,

If you want to buy a real Gunto you want this book.

http://www.japaneseswordbooksandtsuba.com/store/books/b510-swords-imperial-Japan-1868-%E2%80%93-1945-cyclopedia-edition

Grey

[obiwanknabbe]

This falls into the "oh Hheellllll no" category..   carving looks stamped and is poorly done at that, habaki is garbage.. blade is buffed to the point of having no defined surfaces. fittings are very poorly cast.. Everything about this screams "run".

 

 

The Ak looks legit though... 

 

 

Kurt.k

[Brian]

Bad bad bad fake. And an obvious one. Screamingly so.

[Bruce Pennington]

Ayieeeeeeee!!!

 

Good thing you asked. Very bad fake.

 

Look here at real ones: http://ohmura-study.net/905.html

[raaay]

all said already -100% fake

[Matt300ZXT]

Alright, thanks for the heads up guys

[Matt300ZXT]

Well i did my best. I asked him who appraised it and he said a few guys he knows that sell at gun shows. I told him he may want to have a sword dealer look at it for him as multiple sword enthusiasts and people that deal with antique Japanese swords all said it was a chinese replica. He thanked me for my opinion but said he trusted the 3 guys who told him so. I just hope he doesnt sucker someone into paying $400 for it thinking its the real deal and actually worth more. Its been on there a while so maybe hell have to keep it himself.

[Brian]

This isn't one that can be debated. It isn't one that "some guys" say is a fake.
There is zero chance this is real. I'll give him 200 bucks if it turns out real, but he gives me $20 if it's fake. Tell him I said that