Stephen Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 thinking of mining this copper i dont get much other than Mori ? shu ? kao, or am i way off? Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Maybe Shinryo Kawasaki 森了川埼 The last is tough. John Quote
Stephen Posted June 27, 2018 Author Report Posted June 27, 2018 Thanks John google not much help with that, Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 We need the experts for this sosho. John 1 Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted June 27, 2018 Report Posted June 27, 2018 Stephen, Nice motif! Possible purchase? Time for Morita-san. John may have it, parts look right others I don't know....sorry, sosho is a bit of a struggle. Cheers, 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 Just playing here, but further offerings for the hat, 㐂宝 川 (+?) +花押 川柳? Quote
k morita Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 Hi, https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c671906994 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 Ah, Kitagawa (+?) + Kao. Thank you Morita San. Ki 喜 can be written with three sevens (as above) to mean 77 years of age. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Posted June 28, 2018 well with five days to go im sure it will be out of my reach http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/s590227785 So Morita sama you dont know what it says? Quote
Guido Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 7:30 AM, Stephen said: So Morita sama you dont know what it says? I’m pretty sure he does , the Japanese description says 喜多川 (Kitagawa) + kaō. Quote
Guido Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 6:57 AM, Bugyotsuji said: Ki 喜 can be written with three sevens (as above) to mean 77 years of age. Interesting, I've never seen that. But shouldn't it be 777 years then? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 「㐂」の持つ意味など・「喜」という漢字の草書体に基づく俗字であり、喜と同じ意味である。・七十七歳になった祝いを「喜寿」と言いますが、これは「㐂」が”七十七”と読めることを由来とする。From here: https://junglewood.xyz/word-sentence/%E3%90%82-yomikata-henkan/I guess anyone is lucky to have lived to 77...! (Still, what is the kanji after Kitagawa and before Kao?) Quote
Stephen Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Posted June 28, 2018 The thing "㐂" is used ● of shochu " 㐂six (recording)" Those who like shochu (or people in Kyushu) may well know. It is sweet potato shochu with many fans. Kuroki main store Co., Ltd. in Miyazaki prefecture is the brewery. Founded in 18 years. I think that there are many things that I have been told, such as "middle-aged" "loneliness of one hundred years". Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 28, 2018 Report Posted June 28, 2018 That Shochu is called Kiroku, which is Kuroki 黒木 in reverse (Kuroki Honten where it is made). Kuroki Honten's address ends in 776, too. It aso uses the play on good fortune 喜 which is written 㐂 in So-sho grass writing, associating with 77 years of age, and triple 777s on the slots. It also has the sound of 'record' as you say, as in setting a record. Explanation of the word games hidden in the name found here, in Japanese. https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1231765972 1 Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 29, 2018 Report Posted June 29, 2018 Nice little mental exercise and just goes to show how complex things can get. John 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 29, 2018 Report Posted June 29, 2018 Did I get that right that the seller calls the maker UDAGAWA? (喜多川花押在銘) Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 30, 2018 Report Posted June 30, 2018 Jean, the seller says the name is Kitagawa plus Kao, 喜多川.口.(+花押) (The mystery kanji in the box has not yet been identified. The Kao is the last single flourish character.) (在銘 zaimei means 'signature present' or 'with/bearing' signature.) No-one has mentioned what the character before the Kao flourish is. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 30, 2018 Report Posted June 30, 2018 23. Udagawa. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s590227785 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 30, 2018 Report Posted June 30, 2018 Jean, I have checked right through that page. What is 23? Where do you see Udagawa? ( = 宇田川?) Quote
Stephen Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Posted June 30, 2018 is a very elaborate and powerful masterpiece containing the inscription of Kitagawa Hana. There are scratches and dirt due to aging. Appraisal · With box Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 30, 2018 Report Posted June 30, 2018 Piers,it is noted on the mail out of Kelly Schmidt. He is an agent and helps potential buyers purchasing on YAHOO/buyee. I don't know if that was his translation, which is why I ask. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 Ah, thank you, no I did not see that mail from Kelly Schmidt. The Japanese seller lists it only as Kitagawa +Kao, but does not attempt to read the missing kanji. I have asked someone to work on the final unread Kanji; he says he will get back to me. 1 Quote
John A Stuart Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 My feeble attempt above was; 埼 John Quote
SteveM Posted July 1, 2018 Report Posted July 1, 2018 It's unusual that the kantei-sho doesn't mention that last kanji. Even if it was undecipherable to the kantei team, I would have expected them to make a note of it. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted July 3, 2018 Author Report Posted July 3, 2018 Silly Stephen Current Price 142,000 yen (US$1,326.28) Time Remaining Auction Ended Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted July 3, 2018 Report Posted July 3, 2018 Not at all, new day new quarry.....carry on! -S- 1 Quote
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