dancingbear038 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Any help would be appreciated. Tom B. Quote
Shugyosha Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 It might be the photo or my eyes, but something about the patina on the tang, nakago Jiri (not typical bizen shape) and badly done signature makes me think Chinese copy. I hope I'm wrong but I'm sure you'll get some other views soon. Best, John Quote
IanB Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Thomas, it is by a Bizen Munetsugu who would appear to be a shinto smith hence the rather uncharacteristic shape of the tang. You see so many Bizen blades made in the late 16th C. which have a more parallel tang with a rounded nakago jiri. Ian Bottomley Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Hi John, please note that 'Bizen (no) Suke is an honorary title. Munetsugu is a shinshinto smith who did not live in Bizen or follow Bizen workstyle in terms of the shape of his nakago. Regardless, this sword is very suspicious and I would agree with your concern. Best regards, Ray Quote
reeder Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Nakago looks like the other mumei fake swords being sold on eBay from 2 sellers, or 1 seller with 2 names. Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Changtian_swords. Chinese fake. http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=292589830772&category=95131&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528061675418&cspheader=1 Quote
Brian Posted June 4, 2018 Report Posted June 4, 2018 Well, if anything..the forum is educating people to spot these, and really enhancing the "gut feel" for many.Good to see. Quote
Jacques Posted June 5, 2018 Report Posted June 5, 2018 I would not be so quickly conclusive. Mei is not that badly engraved compared with shoshin samples (but should be closer to the nakago mune), yasurime match, and the nakago jiri too (picture can distort it slightly) Probably gimei but chinese fake ?? We need to see all the blade. https://www.aoijapan.com/img/sword/2017/17441-2.jpg Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 5, 2018 Report Posted June 5, 2018 Look again at the link I shared above Jacques. The full photos of the blade are there. Chinese fake, from a seller who exclusively sells fakes from China. http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=292589830772&category=95131&pm=1&ds=0&t=1528061675418&cspheader=1 Quote
Jacques Posted June 5, 2018 Report Posted June 5, 2018 Missed the link... Chinese are really in progress.. Beware Quote
Surfson Posted June 7, 2018 Report Posted June 7, 2018 This is another example of them crossing the line and now making forgeries (no pun intended) instead of their own copies or tributes to mumei swords. Quote
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