winniesuzette Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Hi, Can someone help me translate, thanks! - Winnie Item 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Winnie,a few good photos wouid have helped more than a mass of bad ones!What we need to see are sharp photos of the NAKAGO, because there might be something hidden that we could possibly read! Photos of the mountings tell us something about the last use of the blade, so in your case WWII. Photos of the naked blade (always tip up!) can give us an impression of the condition the blade is in, but when it has been scratched all over (looks like fine sandpaper was used), it is impossible to see HAMON or HADA.Mei of blade 1 may read NAGAMUNE, but this is just a guess without good photos. Date seems to be incomplete (....JU NI GATSU = 10 second month).Blade No. 2 could be AKIHIDE or NORIHIDE (ore something else). Blade No. 3 is possibly KANETOMO. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 No. 6 is a nice NAGAMITSU. All your weapons seem to have been soaked in oil. That is bad because dust will settle on the oiled surfaces, and when the blades are put back in the (probably dirty) SAYA, they will be scratched. For the photos, the oiled NAKAGO cause reflections, so better clean them with household paper. Quote
winniesuzette Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Posted June 1, 2018 Hi Jean, Someone told us to clean the blade with mineral oil, sorry we are not very familiar or very knowledgeable on how to clean the swords, but according to my father he didn't alter or touch the swords, so I think he acquired the swords in that condition. Thanks - Winnie Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Winnie,wiping these blades with mineral oil is not bad, but an excess of oil is, as I have described. Please read here at NMB about care, maintenance and etiquette. Quote
winniesuzette Posted June 1, 2018 Author Report Posted June 1, 2018 Hi Jean, Ok thanks for your help, is it possible for someone to estimate the value, just estimate so we will know where to start. Thanks -winnie Quote
Stephen Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Just basically for ins purpose. $1000 each. They may go up or down pending on condition and venue you decide to sale. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Winnie,very difficult to say!On some blades, the KISSAKI (blade tip) is damaged. This is a considerable value loss as this cannot be 'repaired' by an amateur. This applies as well to your blades' condition in general, so it is not possible to give a reliable evaluation by photos alone. Stephen has given you a realistic general idea of what you can expect when you sell on a non-expert market. Some blades, if traditionally forged, might achieve double or triple of that (or more) in good condition.Please compare by looking here at NBM, what a desirable condition can look like. Another way could be to have an expert have a closer look at your blades. This could probably be done at a sword show or exhibition. Quote
Brian Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 Winnie, I think a bit of background will help your enquiry.I think the fact that these are genuine and coming out of the Philippines is remarkable to start. But give us a bit of the story, will help.I know they are/were? your fathers. And that you may be looking for market values to possibly sell?I think each one in a new post would have gotten better info. But let's try work this way using the numbers and see how far it gets us.I'm guessing you are looking for identification as well as translations where possible. May take a little time, but give the helpful members a chance. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted June 1, 2018 Report Posted June 1, 2018 The second blade is Teruhide. He was a ww2 era sword smith. I should add - Ishido Teruhide. Quote
Surfson Posted June 2, 2018 Report Posted June 2, 2018 Hi Winnie. I agree with Stephen's ballpark estimate. The whole collection is probably worth five or six thousand dollars US. I don't see any sleepers here, although 1 and 3 may be older swords. As somebody pointed out, the Nagamitsu (6) looks promising, especially since it seems to be in better shape than many of the others. Quote
Brian Posted June 2, 2018 Report Posted June 2, 2018 The Nagamitsu (#6) will definitely be a handmade Gendaito, so likely worth around $2000 or so. Quote
Stephen Posted June 2, 2018 Report Posted June 2, 2018 Bit disagree B, too far out of polish, buyer would have to fig in cost of restore. Quote
Brian Posted June 2, 2018 Report Posted June 2, 2018 Fairly decent Gendaito in those mounts...likely sell to the militaria guys for $2K. Not even the Nihonto ones.With NCO's fetching almost $1K, Showato have to be at least $1200 for an average one complete in mounts...which leaves Gendaito at $1800 to $2K in my mind.If polished, then more. May be wrong, but that's how I see it. Maybe $a few hundred less, but not much.Or just wait a little, the market will get there. 1 Quote
winniesuzette Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Posted June 3, 2018 Hi, Thanks for all your opinions, still learning form you guys, btw, how about no 4 and 5 maker, any idea? Thanks -winnie Quote
SteveM Posted June 3, 2018 Report Posted June 3, 2018 Hello Winnie, These were mentioned on the other thread: No. 4 Mori Kunitoshi 森国俊 No. 5 Nōshū jū Murayama Kaneshige kitau kore 濃州住村山兼重鍛之 (the maker's name is Murayama Kunishige) Quote
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