Does Anyone Happen To Recognize This Mon?

[Nickupero]

Hi guy, just as the title describes, looking for this Mon. If anyone can chime in please?

All my books are in boxes so I don't have access to my reference material.

While I'm at it I'll post what the set looks like, its a nice solid silver Botan Koshirae.

 

[Nickupero]

here is the rest of the koshirae...

 

[Kanenaga]

Nick,

 

My Hawley & Chappelear book of mons shows 51 examples with wisteria, but none in which the racemes point in opposite directions.

[Vermithrax16]

I LOVE silver fittings!

[Guido]

^{二つ追い掛け藤   futatsuoikakefuji}

[Nickupero]

Thanks for narrowing it down a little, much better now than where I first started

[Guido]

  On 2/13/2018 at 9:28 PM, Nickupero said:

Thanks for narrowing it down a little, much better now than where I first started

 

　  

[Nickupero]

I could see how that may have been interpreted alternately, but it actually was a big help Guido. Before your English and Kanji explanation I wouldn't have even known where to start in terms of explaining this mon to even start a search. Kanji opens up a door of many online Japanese sites to reference. Thanks again.

[Brian]

I think Guido is pointing out that it wasn't narrowed down, but actually identified. Full stop.
And I think you mean you want to research where it was used and it's history now...not further identification research.
At least that's how i read it.

[Guido]

The database I have on my HD covers almost 5.000 kamon: if it‘s not in there, it doesn‘t exist  . The description I gave of the kamon in question is the standard one found in most (Japanese) books, I didn‘t just make it up .

[Nickupero]

You nailed it Brian, your abilities to moderate are truly a gift. I'm terrible at typing and even more so explaining myself through writing so thanks for setting it straight. If I sounded sarcastic in any way I promise you it wasn't intentional... I'm not a person that likes using sarcasm in dialogue although I do like hearing it from others from time to time.

Sorry if there was any misunderstanding Guido, ultimately I was in search for who it was used by and who it could have belonged to. I wouldn't be able to start that search if it wasn't for you identifying the mon in the first place, so to set the record straight I never doubted your source as you are one of the best here. Again grateful for your crucial contribution.

[Guido]

  On 2/15/2018 at 6:46 AM, Nickupero said:

..., ultimately I was in search for who it was used by and who it could have belonged to.

 

Good luck with that - and I have to admit that I mean this a little sarcastic . Kamon are one of my pet peeves, I wrote in the past about the problem of finding the family it was used by already a couple of times, so I don't want to repeat myself (although I occasionally do suffer from the broken-record-syndrom ). Without supporting evidence, it's virtually impossible. There are only a handful of kamon that no other families dared to use, but even that changed after the Meiji restauration.

 

The one in my avatar was used for many generations by my wife's family, when they were retainers of the Ikeda-han in Okayama. However, I've also  found it on items that definately didn't come from them. Anyhow, it's too late to get confirmation from good old Shuzaburō ...