johnnyi Posted January 31, 2018 Report Posted January 31, 2018 What could these be? Thanks, Johni Quote
Henry Wilson Posted February 1, 2018 Report Posted February 1, 2018 I think there is no conclusive answer and it possibly meant different things to different people because of it's abstract nature. It is a geometric, repeated motif arranged with one off setting the other as if they have been deliberately placed. This seems to suggest that it is not a representation of a natural phenomena (water, snow etc). However, the dots could represent water droplets, a symbol of transience/impermanence. To me they might be vajra. 1 Quote
johnnyi Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Posted February 1, 2018 Ah, thank you Henry. You are the second person to suggest the Vajra , Richard George being the first . That makes it unanimous (2 people is unanimous I think ) Thank you both, Regards, John 1 Quote
Henry Wilson Posted February 1, 2018 Report Posted February 1, 2018 You are welcome John What the maker intended it to be might be another thing entirely. However, in my opinion such questions are fun to ponder but not so important. The interpretation of a vajra could derive from imagery from social, cultural and literal experiences. A person from the past or from a different culture may see it differently because of the different social imagery they have cultivated. Basically it is what we see it as, and it is likely that people have and will continue to interpret it differently. 1 Quote
johnnyi Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Posted February 1, 2018 Yes, agreed Henry, maybe something else, however the amida yasuri adds force to yours and George's argument of a Buddhist connection I think. Thanks again, John 1 Quote
TETSUGENDO Posted February 1, 2018 Report Posted February 1, 2018 I think Henry and George's deduction is an excellent one. All supposition aside, Vajra works for me. -StevenK 1 Quote
SalaMarcos Posted February 6, 2018 Report Posted February 6, 2018 Hi all,For me, this seems more close to the suhama gata from the sandbank of the island and mount Horai. I saw many times this for decoration in Japanese buildings, made of gold copper. Today I missed searching one picture, but instead I give you some pics of the suhama gata form in diferent images. http://kyoto-wagasi.com/img/teiban/suhama_001.jpg http://kyoto-wagasi.com/img/teiban/suhama_002.jpg http://img-cdn.jg.jugem.jp/618/667514/20100510_657837.jpg Regards from Spain. Marcos. 1 Quote
Robert Mormile Posted February 13, 2018 Report Posted February 13, 2018 John: I believe the sukashi is two winged insects engaged in combat. The vajra sukashi that I have seen are executed like the attached example. Thanks for sharing. Robert 1 Quote
johnnyi Posted February 13, 2018 Author Report Posted February 13, 2018 Thank you Robert, (and others). After considering your post it is hard to understand why there would be two vajras rather than one, and it does seem now that these two objects might be in opposition to one another. Maybe they are insects, maybe bats? Regards, Johni. Quote
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