dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 Dave and Stephen, I'm almost sorry drug you guys into this! I'm not sure why after buying the sword many years ago it just won't seem to leave me alone. (What am I,bet you can't guess!!!) Modern faked up something another, Showato experimental, maybe even Meji/taisho with severely cleaned nakago, I don't know... Stephen, I spoke with Bob Hughes at the show for as much time as he could offer. Believe it or not, he called the sword Nihonto, even after a replied, youv'e got to be kidding... I admit , even though I'm a rather pathetic looking old guy in my sixties, I know people weren't just being kind... I'm willing to ship the sword to you or Dave R to have a look in hand, I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't thing maybe there was something to be learned. Mr. Ikeda appeared to me to be a no nonsense sort of professional and would not have thought twice about saying it was some sot of fake something or another.. Dave 2 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 Kissaki always gives the best chance of determining Nihonto. 1 Quote
Dave R Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 I'm not sorry, I have learned a lot chasing up what I can find about the possibilities of this blades origin. I would hang on and see if you can get it to someone who specialises in Showato, and certainly not me. (I live in England). 1 Quote
dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 Kissaki always gives the best chance of determining Nihonto. I'm not sure these pictures will offer much more toward making a determination,(extremely out of polish), possibly just the shape of the kissaki will help or maybe someone can spot a clue... Again, I thank all of you. Dave 1 Quote
vajo Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 With this thread you all bring me near to buy a chinese forged katana. As i was looking for examples i found a forgery that made damned near real looking nihonto from kissaki to the nakago and they made her own tamahagene. The nakago some pictures above looks like very poor made. Every NCO looks more nicely. Sorry this is not mantetsu. It's whatever. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 Ok im totally confused now, blade looks old, perhaps if we started with these pix, shame what was done to nakago. IM lost on it, be glad to take to a show in the spring, lets see if im alive then, Sorry for putting you thru the wringer Dave. 2 Quote
lonely panet Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 stop using your phone to take photo's, they just don't have good enough resolution. but with thoses kissaki pics, I'm sure you have proved its not made in the last 20 years. that's for sure. 2 Quote
Dave R Posted January 2, 2018 Report Posted January 2, 2018 Sorry for putting you thru the wringer Dave. Which one of us are you talking to? 1 Quote
dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 stop using your phone to take photo's, they just don't have good enough resolution. but with thoses kissaki pics, I'm sure you have proved its not made in the last 20 years. that's for sure. I was reluctant to post those embarrassing pictures, but thought it might at least show age and shape, I've have a much more advanced camera, which I should have used in the first place, and will use for any future pictures.. Seriously, potential kiri-komi, also. Dave Quote
dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 Ok im totally confused now, blade looks old, perhaps if we started with these pix, shame what was done to nakago. IM lost on it, be glad to take to a show in the spring, lets see if im alive then, Sorry for putting you thru the wringer Dave I'm sure you'll be alive, and thank you for your offer to take it to the Chi-town show. I wouldn't hesitate for a minute..we'll see. I have that wakizashi that I found in a pawn shop awhile back which I posted here on the NMB. I did contact Mr. Tenold and spoke with him on the phone. He said he had seen the photos of the wakizashi and stated it probably wouldn't be worth more than just a window polish. We left it at that, we haven't spoken since, and I certainly didn't want to seem pushy, but I have every intention of recontacting him soon. Hopefully, if he can find time, he can take a look at the katana also, open a couple more windows and offer his opinion of this sword . Dave M 1 Quote
dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 I'm not sorry, I have learned a lot chasing up what I can find about the possibilities of this blades origin. I would hang on and see if you can get it to someone who specialises in Showato, and certainly not me. (I live in England). Special Thank You you Dave R and Brian for remaining open to what this sword may actually be. I would be honored to have either one of you have a look in hand and share your opinions! Dave 1 Quote
dwmc Posted January 2, 2018 Author Report Posted January 2, 2018 Thank you also to all members who took the time to offer an opinion... Dave Quote
David Flynn Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 Just shows how hard it is to judge from Photos. 3 Quote
Shamsy Posted January 3, 2018 Report Posted January 3, 2018 I'll say it again, the only constant in Japanese swords seems to be inconsistencies. I've seen a lot of very nice 95s labeled as fakes very quickly because they're a little different. Open minded gets you a long way. 3 Quote
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