EdWolf Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 Hi to all, Today, I have bought my second Kai Gunto sword. Marked Tenshozan tanrenjo saku, showa 15 nen 11 gatsu kichi (1940 November, a lucky day). It's in perfect condiction. Just to share my excitement. Here are the pictures. Hope you all like it. Feel free to comment. Best regards, Ed 3 Quote
EdWolf Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Posted November 28, 2017 and some more pictures. Best regards, Ed 2 Quote
Geraint Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 Dear Ed, Thank you for sharing both your sword and your excitement. I'd be pleased with that one. All the best. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 Gorgeous, Ed! I'm guessing that's eel skin on the saya? Beautiful! I see there's no Navy Arsenal stamp. I've read that prior to 1940, the compliance with the requirement for stamps was a bit spotty. Unless, ths was a gendaito, but the nakago looks too clean for that. 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Bruce, there is indeed no navy arsenal stamp. I don't know if it is gendaito. Don't know how to determine. Best regards, Ed Quote
Stephen Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 We have pages on Tenshozan tanrenjo do a search here, its a spl steel. 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Posted November 28, 2017 I will do a search. Thanks for your reply Stephen. Regards, Ed Quote
IJASWORDS Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Ed, nice KAI GUNTO. Is the blade made from the "rust proof steel" or stainless steel? They are very interesting examples. Neil. Quote
EdWolf Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Neil, I'm not sure if the blade is made of stainless steel. It looks stainless but I can't explain the black stains. My other Kai gunto is made of stainless steel and doesn't show the black stains. Regards, Ed Quote
Stephen Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/3548-takayama-prison-sword-mei/page-2?hl=+navy%20+forge http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/522-translation-help/ 1 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted November 28, 2017 Report Posted November 28, 2017 Hi Ed, is it possible to take a clear photo of HAMON? That will help identify steel, if it is quenched, etched or mechanically applied. Neil. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 Very nice example, Ed. Odd there are no stamps as it is clearly some sort of stainless steel. 1 Quote
Shamsy Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 My stainless kai had similar spots on otherwise perfect steel. It is rust resistant, not proof, after all. I assumed it was just ‘worse’ areas. 2 Quote
EdWolf Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 This blade is made of some stainless steel, the structure of the steel is totally different when compared to a traditional made sword. I was a confused by the black spots and the absence of a stamp. As Bruce already mentioned “prior to 1940, the compliance with the requirement for stamps was a bit spotty”. Steve, thanks for mentioning that your blade had similar spots! I will post better quality pictures soon. I was too excited and could not wait to share this find. So, I used my phone for taking pictures. Thanks for all the replies! Regards, Ed Quote
paul griff Posted November 29, 2017 Report Posted November 29, 2017 Hello Ed, Very nice sword..Saya and tsuka- ito in beautiful condition...Well done.. Regards, Paul. 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted November 29, 2017 Author Report Posted November 29, 2017 Thanks Paul for the kind words. I will try to catch the beauty of the sword in some good pictures. In real it such a nice piece. Regards, Ed 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Posted December 2, 2017 As promised some higher quality pictures. Regards, Ed Quote
EdWolf Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Posted December 2, 2017 And some photos with the other Kai Gunto. Regards, Ed 1 Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted December 2, 2017 Report Posted December 2, 2017 Not ell skin on saya , buy shark skin 1 Quote
IJASWORDS Posted December 2, 2017 Report Posted December 2, 2017 Really good photos of really good KAI's. NICE! 1 Quote
Shamsy Posted December 2, 2017 Report Posted December 2, 2017 A handsome looking pair! Nicely preserved and of course the skin on saya is always better than lacquered. Were I still collecting officer swords I'd be jealous! 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted December 3, 2017 Report Posted December 3, 2017 I think the hamon is etched on, consistent with Anti-rust blades. Very nice example. 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks for all the positive feedback! Best regards, Ed Quote
Stephen Posted December 3, 2017 Report Posted December 3, 2017 Lucky man, always wanted a clean KG, even more so the brown lacquer skin. Id have to have in hand to call the acid etch. Might have just been hadori by togi. 1 Quote
EdWolf Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Posted December 3, 2017 Hi Stephen, I'm indeed a lucky man. It's a real joy to watch this swords next to each other. You're right about the brown colored shark skin. It is very attractive. Best regards, Ed Quote
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