Real Or Fake Quizzzzzzzzzzzzz (Tassels)

[lonely panet]

ok guys, trying to make a bit of light fun out of a post about tassels.

 

 

got 3 pics of a naval ball tassel. 

 

IS IT REAL OR FAKE???? 

 

winner gets a years supply of non-stick AIR, complaments of the enviromnent 

 

[Ontario_Archaeology]

I'll take a stab, although I am a noobie, this can be fun! My initial gut instinct was that it was a fake, just the white and yellow is just too white and yellow, but I cannot actually see anything wrong with the "production?" or the style of the tassel. 

Waiting to be corrected

Matt

[Windy]

First time I’ve seen a naval tassel ball......so I’m oot.

[Bruce Pennington]

Same here, and I'm not at home to prowl through my reference books.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Did you get that from a time travel machine

[paul griff]

Hello,

Never seen one like that but it looks very well made and nicely woven...Also appears silk as opposed to an artificial material like rayon...In which case I opt for REAL...!

Regards,

Paul.

[vajo]

 I never saw this before. Looks like new, but if you look deeper in the pictures there are some signs of wear. 

For me it looks genuine but i can't judge something what i never seen before 

 

Thanks for showing. 

[J Reid]

Never seen one.. but I'm going with fake. The tassel looks elasticized!

[Toryu2020]

Never seen that color combo - I'll say modern repro

[Michael T]

Real and new - Japan Maritime Self Defense Force

 

Michael

[lonely panet]

Micheal is the WIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEERRRRR.

 

this is how tricky tassel life is getting

 

here is a few pics of a few important people,???? not sure who may the Japanese PM

[Kai-Gunto]

Heres some old ones.

[lonely panet]

i open the next quizz to the next person. post a tassel that you own and have good photos and evidence of its origins. (no JUST COZ I THINK SO's)

 

 

REAL OR FAKE QUIZZZZZZZZZ, EVERY WINNER GETS A PRIZE (not actual prizes given) disclaimer 

[IJASWORDS]

Pulled out a couple from collection. Probably don't qualify for your quiz, but I like 'em. Neil

[vajo]

Very nice swords Neil. What blades are in the type98?

 

Chris

[IJASWORDS]

Hi Chris, a Copper handle NCO on left, then SESHU JU YOSHIKUNI (Kanbun 1661), then GENDAI Morita KANESHIGE, and lastly, SEIKI/MINO UJIFUSA OWARI (a model '94). Thanks for asking. Neil.  

[vajo]

Thanks Neil. ????

[Kai-Gunto]

Neil. I love that type 94. Very nice piece.

[Bruce Pennington]

Neil's post reminded me of a problem I have: How can you tell the difference between a late-war IJA officer tassel and a IJN tassel? I've been told the IJN's are darker, but when you have 70 years of fading, they look the same to me.

[vajo]

Bruce the IJN Tassel is only brown. The IJA Tassel is blue and brown.

 

Is a late war tassel looks like a IJN Tassel? 

[Michael T]

@vajo : Dawson p. 408

 

Michael

[IJASWORDS]

In the hand, its not too hard to tell. In the picture below, left IJ Navy, centre IJ Army, and the right late war IJ Army. The way to tell the late war apart, is that it is lighter and brighter than the Navy tassel. Hope the picture is clear enough to tell the difference. By the way, the late war officer tassels in my experience are quite difficult to find. Neil. 

[IJASWORDS]

Do these "babies" qualify? Neil.

[Kai-Gunto]

In the hand, its not too hard to tell. In the picture below, left IJ Navy, centre IJ Army, and the right late war IJ Army. The way to tell the late war apart, is that it is lighter and brighter than the Navy tassel. Hope the picture is clear enough to tell the difference. By the way, the late war officer tassels in my experience are quite difficult to find. Neil.

 

I have one late army. I take a photo tomorrow.

[Bruce Pennington]

other than color, no distinguishing differences? Hrmph!

[Bruce Pennington]

Well if YOU have one Neil, I’m sure of it’s authenticity, but I have no idea what it is!

Do these "babies" qualify? Neil.

[IJASWORDS]

Pictured was a Japanese WW2 General officers dress sash, worn around the waist. The tassels are a woven metal thread (and heavy!). Neil.

[Shamsy]

I have only two tassels. One a late war officer blue and brown that I took off a pattern 8 NCO. Then I have the red one I think I read was around major rank.

 

I honestly know nothing about tassels other than what I can read in books. I avoid them because I couldn't recognise a fake and I find them a little fragile for my liking. Probably should get one NCO tassel though.

 

I will post them tonight, see what you guys think.

 

Here they are. What do you think?

[paul griff]

Hello,

Both look fine to me...First one is a nicely worn silk company grade army tassel and would compliment any any shin-gunto with a " campaigned" appearance...Second one in red and brown for army field officer major or colonel and very nice,it's silk , the crown and slide being nicely woven...This one I feel would compliment maybe a " minty" type of shin-gunto.. Only my opinion of course and have been known to be wrong...!

Regards,

Paul..

[Bruce Pennington]

Hello,

Both look fine to me...First one is a nicely worn silk company grade army tassel and would compliment any any shin-gunto with a " campaigned" appearance...Second one in red and brown for army field officer major or colonel and very nice,it's silk , the crown and slide being nicely woven...This one I feel would compliment maybe a " minty" type of shin-gunto.. Only my opinion of course and have been known to be wrong...!

Regards,

Paul..

Agreed. I'd say the Field grade one looks minty, like maybe never used. I'm always leary of the new looking ones because of the fakes out there, but this one looks right.