jamesr Posted October 25, 2017 Report Posted October 25, 2017 Hello, looking at a current auction of a shin-gunto that is deemed gendaito I see the nakago is hot stamped. The seller states the stamp indicates that the sword is hand forged. I believed that any hot stamped sword was non-traditionally made, could the stamp indicate hand forged but non-traditional in some other way? Thanks for any information. James R. Quote
Stephen Posted October 25, 2017 Report Posted October 25, 2017 http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/showato.htm A kokuin (hot stamp ) does not a sword make, you'll find one on a Amahide showato and on a Gassan Sadakazu Gendaito. The blade tells you, do your homework. 24 1 Quote
jamesr Posted October 26, 2017 Author Report Posted October 26, 2017 Thanks, I appreciate your taking the time to reply. Yes, I have started collecting some reference materials and hope to learn enough to minimize the cost of my ignorance and hopefully, only fall back on the collective wisdom of this sites members for truly difficult questions. Thank you again. James R. Quote
seattle1 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Posted October 26, 2017 Hello: The doubtless well intentioned posted referenced by Stephen seems to group the Minatogawa Jinga Kiku-sui mon, along with the star stamp, as a stamped device. That error has been replicated many times and seems bullet proof to correction. The mon, of long historical use, as seen on Minatogawa swords are engraved and while very closely following each other, each is unique. Some years ago when Herman Wallinga was writing his justly original monograph on Minatogawa's blades the issue came up in discussion with him, and Herman, not willing to take my comments without confirmation, took a number of such blades then in his possession during his writing, to a high tech machining shop in Rochester, NY, and sure enough after study they were all declared as engraved. Arnold F. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted October 26, 2017 Report Posted October 26, 2017 The link provided was for Doc's info on showato vs gendaito. 19 Quote
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