Ebay Seller Japaneseswordgallery

[Stephen]

Well they have me blocked from me showing them their rip off double pricing, maybe if we all question them to the like?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsuba-Japanese-Samurai-sword-Katana-Koshirae-guard-pine-bamboo-and-plum-Antique-/263265178907?hash=item3d4bd3d51b:g:b5gAAOSwB-1YvMlj&autorefresh=true

 

http://e-touken.com/?p=1997

[Stephen]

Seems i cant find org sale, theirs only?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsuba-Japanese-Samurai-sword-Katana-Koshirae-guard-wave-and-rain-dragon-Antique-/263265178912

[ken kata]

May I offer my thoughts and why..

no disrespect or accusations to anyone. 

 

 

The e-bay seller's fee..?

and, now, when asking about that two pricing, it might alert e-bay for , ( what was that POTUS disclaimer in the movie, Independence Day?) about having no knowledge, of what is happening.

I once bought a item . direct from a seller's store, (I was on his mailing list) , while, he had a higher price on e-bay..

 

I was told it was to cover the seller's fee.

 

So, on an open forum, not a good thing to mention?

My Bad..

 

Alton Takata

[Marius]

Guys, eBay is full of this scum. Then again, so are most banks and other financial institutions.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Stephen, my sword mentor contacted them to ask about their return policy if he found the blade to be gimei, & he was contacted by their LAWYER, wanting to know if my mentor wanted a lawsuit for slander!

 

Stay far away from those fools!!

 

Ken

[SwordGuyJoe]

Guys, eBay is full of this scum. Then again, so are most banks and other financial institutions.

... and most branches of government...

[Baka Gaijin]

Hi Ken.,

 

Do tell your sword mentor not to be concerned with such an unusual reply, and their "Lawyer" must really understand the difference between Libel, Slander and Defamation when firing Cannon off the Port side.

 

Under which jurisdiction would this punitive action take place?

 

As I presume your mentor is in Hawaii, then they would have to instruct a Lawyer in the United States.

 

No one with any sense would take on the case without a substantial retainer, possibly in excess of $200,000 US.

 

Unless of course  you have a relative of this chap in Hawaii:

 

 

In which case run for the Hills.......

[Ken-Hawaii]

It's not that we were at all worried, Malcolm, but can you see doing business with a company that has kūkae for brains?

[Baka Gaijin]

This about sums the situation up in the grand scheme of things.....

 

 

 

[svarsh]

I was under impression that japaneseswordgallery / eBay is selling things that do not belong to japaneseswordgallery. Now I know is it true:

This tsuba: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsuba-Japanese-Samurai-sword-Katana-Koshirae-guard-crane-in-the-nest-openwork/263413526924?hash=item3d54ab718c:g:8k0AAOSw~AVYvNVGis actually listed at http://e-touken.com/?p=1985 by  ©2014 Tamayama Meishitou.

japaneseswordgallery's price is: $8,300. Tamayama Meishitou's price is 450,000 JPY (roughly half).

I am sure that most of their other pieces have the same issue.

This is definitely not good. I blocked japaneseswordgallery on my eBay, however, they return from time to time. I reported them to eBay. I don't think I can do more.

Sergei

[TheGermanBastard]

I was under impression that japaneseswordgallery / eBay is selling things that do not belong to japaneseswordgallery. Now I know is it true:

This tsuba: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tsuba-Japanese-Samurai-sword-Katana-Koshirae-guard-crane-in-the-nest-openwork/263413526924?hash=item3d54ab718c:g:8k0AAOSw~AVYvNVGis actually listed at http://e-touken.com/?p=1985 by  ©2014 Tamayama Meishitou.

japaneseswordgallery's price is: $8,300. Tamayama Meishitou's price is 450,000 JPY (roughly half).

I am sure that most of their other pieces have the same issue.

This is definitely not good. I blocked japaneseswordgallery on my eBay, however, they return from time to time. I reported them to eBay. I don't think I can do more.

Sergei

 

Why is that not good?

 

There's always two sides of the medal. Given you buy that Tsuba then it is good for them because they have earned money. On the other side it is bad for you because you likely overpaid.

 

Then in the end it is just offering something on the market and fishing for someone pickung up the bait.

 

Youd did your homeowrk and would have bought the piece directly from the source so you are fine.

 

Anybody taking something in comission literally does this. It is nothing illegal.

[PNSSHOGUN]

This ebay shop seems to sell things for at least 2-3x normal market price. I would avoid regardless.

[svarsh]

Luis,

I am perfectly fine if someone buys cheap and sells for more. What I am against is selling things that do not belong to the seller. What these guys do, they find a piece, still the photos (copyright of the original owner) and put these photos in their shop. What happens next is that: I find the pice at their shop, and when I buy it then they buy it from the original seller and sell to me. If the original seller already sold the piece or simply does not want to sell to them, these guys respond: Sorry, the item has been already sold.I simply do not think it's a good practice. eBay is made to make fair people sell to fair people.

[Stephen]

It would be like if you posted one of your many sales, then i lifted your photos and put on ebay. Can i do tha Luis?

are all the swords you sell yours?

think it over

[TheGermanBastard]

Stephen & sergei @ Both of you: I am basically with you in terms that we don't need this kind overpriced things. Atleast I don't. But then pricing is again subjetive.

 

You see a real 10 Million bucks Monet somewhere priced at 5000 USD but you don't have that money in your pockets. So you go to some guy and tell him you can sell him a real Monet at  1 Million. He  pays you that amount being most happy he got a 10 Million Canavas with paint on it at a low ball 1 Million. Overpiced? Subjective I'd say. ... but most important tell me if you would not do that because you think it is unfair? Come on guys ...

 

But back to teh topic: As I said I am basically with you as it just spam but for the stupid buyer ... do I feel sorry about taht buyer? No I do not because everybody has the gievn right to be as stupid as he can. Infact I might be even jealous on this guy because unlike me he is not a poor stupid chap but obviously a rich stupid chap who can afford not to type a smith / artist name into Google to look up prices.

 

BUT for the most importnat question: Do we know that the original owners did not agree to those sales adverst? I do not because I did not ask them as I do not care. But sicne you do care: Did you ask them and if yes what was their reply? Unless the original owner has stated he is in disagreement over this sales practice we do ramp about something that is simply not our business.

 

@ Sergei: You wrote:  "eBay is made to make fair people sell to fair people."

 

Good Morning. Wake up ... No it is NOT. eBay is made to generate revenue for eBay Inc - nothing else. End of the line.

 

@ Stephen: Yes, I do own all of these swords. And yes I herby agree that YOU can offer my sword for sale to anybody anywhere and sell it to them as long as I get the $$$ that I want. If you find me a buyer I will admire it very much.

 

Regards,

 

Luis

[TheGermanBastard]

And one more remark: I do not like this companies approach at all to get their pitbull "lawyer" (if he really exists) after people. I would avoid anybody acting like this.

[J Reid]

the term for this practice is called "drop shipping" and is perfectly legal. However when the product goes from manufacturers goods to 1 of a kind antique objects is when the idea becomes gray.. may be immoral but yet- not illegal.

[Guido]

There's even a third price ($7,470) if you buy directly from Japaneseswordgallery: http://japaneseswordgallery.jp/tsuba-Japanese-samurai-sword-katana-koshirae-guard-crane-in-the-nest-openwork/

 

What I find a little odd about this seller is that he claims to be located in Tokyo, doesn't give his name or e-mail address, only lists a cell phone number, the website is only in English with prices in US $, and he doesn't ship within Japan:

[Guido]

Just found out that the domain is registerd to a Takeru Sado. I also looked up the address given on Japaneseswordgallery, and wonder how he fits the store in the pictures into a 21.26 square meter apt. (reminds me of "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them")    :

[Brian]

Inspector Schiller is on the case
Here is another of their/his websites. http://katanadic.jp/category/katana

Btw, like it or not, what he is doing is not illegal.

And I'm sure most of the places he is reselling for don't care either, as they don't ship internationally and they get their price. I wouldn't go near him..and really don't like what he is doing. But it isn't illegal.

[Guido]

Here is another of their/his websites. http://katanadic.jp/category/katana

 

The advice he gives there is sipmply priceless:

[vajo]

I never buy the ebay price. Ask the seller or make offer direct via mail. If you look at the prices at the ebay seller mazukatse he is also often overpriced. When you ask him, you will come to an agreement because they all want to sell thier stuff.

[Guido]

And I'm sure most of the places he is reselling for don't care either, as they don't ship internationally and they get their price.

 

Well, both tsuba linked to by Stephen and Sergei are on a website that does sell internationally ...

[Greg F]

This seller is disgraceful and i hope karma bites them on the butt.

 

Greg

[Stephen]

^{this guy has same problem}

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=aki_japan&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC1.A0.H0.Xtsuba.TRS1&_nkw=tsuba&_sacat=0

 

 

https://www.seiyudo.com/tsuba.htm