estcrh Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 I will post some images and see what comes up. It does not look oil quenched to me at least compared to the other known oil quenched blades I have but I can see no activity, an alternate type of steel perhaps or am I missing something. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 December 1943 is the only thing I can tell your with certainty! Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 October, not December and I would say Sadamitsu is likely, but I'm not sure. Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 October, not December and I would say Sadamitsu is likely, but I'm not sure.Gassan Sadamitsu perhaps? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 October, not December and I would say Sadamitsu is likely, but I'm not sure. "10 month". Hey everybody knows that December, right!? Quote
Geraint Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Gassan Sadamitsu perhaps? Well if you have trouble reading the kanji then probably not. Gassan blades of this period tend to have very well cut mei and impeccable nakago. Who knows? All the best. Quote
Ian B3HR2UH Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 You know Geraint but are , I think , too polite to say .Wherever he is now poor old Gassan Sadamitsu would probably die of shame if he learnt that people were attributing this piece too him. Ian Brooks 3 Quote
cisco-san Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Hello, maybe this smith (from Markus book): SADAMITSU (貞光), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Ehime – “Sadamitsu” (貞光), family name Matsumoto (松本), jōkō no retsu (Akihide), First Seat at the 6th Shinsaku Nihontō Denrankai (新作日本刀展覧会, 1941) Quote
David Flynn Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Looks like a Showato to me. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Gassan Sadamitsus landlady perhaps. Quote
vajo Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 "na" stamp maybe. Nagoya Arsenal. Looks showa to me. Maybe this is a showa stamp. Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 "na" stamp maybe. Nagoya Arsenal. Looks showa to me. nagoya arsenal.jpg Maybe this is a showa stamp. showa-stamp.jpg na stmp for sure, but the place of the sho stamp. I dont think so. They would never stamp there. Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 Well if you have trouble reading the kanji then probably not. Gassan blades of this period tend to have very well cut mei and impeccable nakago. Who knows? All the best. Geraint, actually I can not read kanji at all, which is why I am asking for opinions. So do you or anyone else here have a Gassan Sadamitsu mei to compare? The reason I even brought up this smith is that I saw a blade with a very similar mei dated October 1943 that was attributed to him, but the owner of that sword may not be correct. Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 I have been a member here for many years, this is the first time I have asked for help with identification. I have a small group of WWII swords that have been in storage for a while, I am not very knowledgable on the subject of WWII smiths so hopefully some members here have some insight that they are willing to share, thanks for the responses so far, greatly appreciated. Some better images. Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 You know Geraint but are , I think , too polite to say .Wherever he is now poor old Gassan Sadamitsu would probably die of shame if he learnt that people were attributing this piece too him. Ian Brooks Gassan Sadamitsus landlady perhaps. And remarks like this are helpful in what way? I know people who will not post their swords here for this reason, they are afraid of asking a stupid question when in fact there are only stupid answers. Really, is this necessary? 1 1 Quote
Geraint Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Hi Eric. Please don't misunderstand my comment, it was not directed at your difficulty with the kanji rather the fact that Gassan blades have very neat and distinctive calligraphy as well as very well finished nakago with kesho yasurime. A good place to start your comparisons is here, https://markussesko.com/2013/07/21/gassan-sadaichi/ Nothing about the nakago suggests Gassan to me so I feel you would be better off following up on the smith that Klaus suggested. I hope this helps. All the best. Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 Hi Eric. Please don't misunderstand my comment, it was not directed at your difficulty with the kanji rather the fact that Gassan blades have very neat and distinctive calligraphy as well as very well finished nakago with kesho yasurime. A good place to start your comparisons is here, https://markussesko.com/2013/07/21/gassan-sadaichi/ Nothing about the nakago suggests Gassan to me so I feel you would be better off following up on the smith that Klaus suggested. I hope this helps. All the best. Not at all Geraint, I understood your meaning and agree with your assessment. At this point it is not even confirmed as "Sadamitsu". Finding a mei to compare for any of the smiths mentioned is not easy it seems. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Well if you have trouble reading the kanji then probably not. Gassan blades of this period tend to have very well cut mei and impeccable nakago. Who knows? All the best. Ha, no I read it fine. It was a brain-fart that forced our 12 months into a 10 month cycle and came out with "December" as "10". A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Quote
Stephen Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Well gee not all Gassan were masters, this guy, probably a factory worker who said to his mate ....signing this one Sadamitsu...haha..that will mess with someone's head in the future!! 1 Quote
vajo Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Eric this blade is a showa-to no doubt. Take it as it is. 1 Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 Eric this blade is a showa-to no doubt. Take it as it is. I never said it was not showato but this is a section for "Military Swords of Japan" right so what exactly does "take it as it is" mean? if you have nothing to add and have no interest why comment, there are people who do have an interest and knowledge of showato. 1 Quote
vajo Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Eric with all respect. What will you find out? You ask for opinions for your sword. It is a oil quenched showa-to blade with stamps that not indicates that it is a gendaito. It is a Type 98 Gunto with a fast chissled signature, in good condition. 1 Quote
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