Windy Posted September 11, 2017 Report Posted September 11, 2017 Originally posted this in the translation section, a 98 I've had a look at. Those wiser than me suggest Kunifusa, possibly '43? Seems to be in reasonable condition. Metal painted saya. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 12, 2017 Report Posted September 12, 2017 Yes, September 1943. Can't speak on the smith name. Quote
Windy Posted September 12, 2017 Author Report Posted September 12, 2017 Would that be Kojima Kunifusa? I've found two Rai Kunifusas, but the mei looked slightly different. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 12, 2017 Report Posted September 12, 2017 Yes. Kojima Kunifusa from Seki. 1 Quote
Windy Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Posted September 20, 2017 Oh dear...I appear to have picked up my 3rd gunto. Was watching the auction and thought the last bid was a bit low, so had a cheeky one, and won. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 20, 2017 Report Posted September 20, 2017 I ended up with a Yoroi the same way. Quote
Windy Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Posted September 20, 2017 Once I pick it up, I’ll give it a bit of a clean and get some pics. Quote
Windy Posted September 21, 2017 Author Report Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/12/2017 at 3:17 AM, Bruce Pennington said: Yes, September 1943. Can't speak on the smith name. Is it not May? Quote
Windy Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Posted September 23, 2017 Is this a marking towards the end of the nakago? Quote
Windy Posted September 23, 2017 Author Report Posted September 23, 2017 Other than this, I’m struggling to find any other marks. Is this odd, considering the blade is from an established Seki Smith? Quote
Shamsy Posted September 23, 2017 Report Posted September 23, 2017 Not sure about the mark (or not), but unmarked/signed/stamped swords are not at all uncommon. More surprising is that some frankly average blades were signed. When you are producing blades for quantity and demand as opposed to art I'd think you wouldn't be so inclined to put your name to it. Like if a famous famous fashion designer had to quickly produce a huge clothing range for Wal-Mart. Bear in mind that sometimes painted kanji were used, for presumably assembly purposes. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 I completely see where you're going shamsy. Keep in mind that these "smith's" were not trained fully, nor did the VAST majority go on to make swords post-war. So a designer, they are not. So some of these "average" (very nice way of putting it ) were in their realm of masterpiece. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 24, 2017 Report Posted September 24, 2017 It's kanji, but I don't know what it is. Quote
Windy Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 A slightly better pic... Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 At first I thought it was katakana letters, but now I can see it's not. Maybe someone who reads Japanese can tell us what this is: Quote
Windy Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 Could it be as simple as 65? Quote
estcrh Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 10:29 PM, Shamsy said: Not sure about the mark (or not), but unmarked/signed/stamped swords are not at all uncommon.Any ideas of why these showato ended up not being stamped in some way, especially the ones made during the war, I have several unmarked ones as well. Quote
Windy Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 The bit I don’t get is the lack of seki or other armoury mark, given that Kunifusa was well known to be a Seki Smith? Quote
Stephen Posted September 26, 2017 Report Posted September 26, 2017 Posted Today, 12:49 PM Could it be as simple as 65? Or roku san 63? Quote
Windy Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Posted September 26, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 6:42 PM, Stephen said: Posted Today, 12:49 PM Could it be as simple as 65? Or roku san 63? Yup...thought that too. Guess it’s maybe a stock number or something similar? Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 27, 2017 Report Posted September 27, 2017 Any markings on the fittings? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 27, 2017 Report Posted September 27, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 8:36 PM, Windy said: Other than this, I’m struggling to find any other marks. Is this odd, considering the blade is from an established Seki Smith? Matt, I particularly enjoy the stamps on gunto, and to my knowledge the answer to your question is unknown. There is an interesting page on Ryujin Swords that postulates the Showa stamp was only used on blades sold through the Officer Clubs, so theoretically, a blade sold through a private shop would not have one. Such a circumstance MAY also account for the lack of an arsenal stamp. Seki stamps before 1940 were a swordsmith guild mark, but once the mark was taken over by the Arsenal inspectors, like your 1943 blade, it wouldn't be there if the blade wasn't sold through the arsenal? The stamping process is one of the least known aspects of the gunto manufacturing world. 1 Quote
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