Trying To Identify A Sword

[lukeed]

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm new to the forum and came across it while trying to identify a sword. It appears to be Japanese, I believe there is a stamp in the blade and appears to be serial numbered. Any info on if this is a legit or knockoff would be appreciated as well as thoughts on it's identification/age if a true Japanese blade. Either way, I find the blade interesting and am just trying to gather information for my own personal use.

 

The blade length is just over 12" and it appears that it's been take care of and oiled correctly. The blade smells of oil, but does not feel greasy or have extra oil on it. Pics are attached below.

 

Thank you in advance for your assistance and information in helping identify this item.

 

Thank you!

 

Luke

[EdWolf]

Hi ? (Luke?),

Please sign all your post with at least your first name. It’s one of the forum rules.

Your knife does look like a homemade knife based on a Japanese WW2 bayonet. The arsenal stamp and serial number are visible on the blade.

Regards,

Ed

[lukeed]

Hi ? (Luke?),

Please sign all your post with at least your first name. It’s one of the forum rules.

Your knife does look like a homemade knife based on a Japanese WW2 bayonet. The arsenal stamp and serial number are visible on the blade.

Regards,

Ed

Hi Ed,

 

Thank you for the information and my apologies. I missed that and have corrected it.

 

Thank you

 

Luke

[lukeed]

Hi ? (Luke?),

Please sign all your post with at least your first name. It’s one of the forum rules.

Your knife does look like a homemade knife based on a Japanese WW2 bayonet. The arsenal stamp and serial number are visible on the blade.

Regards,

Ed

Hi Ed,

 

Do Japanese bayonets typically have curvature in the blades? I haven't see this style before.

 

Thanks

 

Luke

[EdWolf]

Hi Luke,

I’m not a bayonet collector / expert but I don’t believe there is a type with a curved blade. I think the blade is reshaped. A lot of effort is put into this knife, so why not reshape the blade. Maybe there are other members with an better explanation.

Regards,

Ed

[PNSSHOGUN]

The fittings are from Type 3 and Kai Gunto, very interesting.

[Dave R]

 A distinctly Chinese martial arts style to this one. Put together from found items, but not necessarily to deceive, but rather more for use.  A cut down sabre blade?

[vajo]

Its not Japanese.

[Brian]

I don't think it's Japanese either.

[PNSSHOGUN]

I think it has been made by a handy G.I. after the war.

[lukeed]

A distinctly Chinese martial arts style to this one. Put together from found items, but not necessarily to deceive, but rather more for use. A cut down sabre blade?

Hi Dave - This would make sense considering where the blade was purchased (essentially a Chinese thrift shop). It's an interesting piece and I appreciate everyone's feedback.

 

Thanks!

 

Luke

[uwe]

Hi ? (Luke?),

Please sign all your post with at least your first name. It’s one of the forum rules.

Your knife does look like a homemade knife based on a Japanese WW2 bayonet. The arsenal stamp and serial number are visible on the blade.

Regards,

Ed

Ed,

I think we can rule out any Japanese bayonet type (including the export and emergency models)!

[EdWolf]

Ed,

I think we can rule out any Japanese bayonet type (including the export and emergency models)!

Hi Uwe,

I’m not so sure. The marking on the blade is typical for Japanese bayonets. See added picture. I don't know if other countries also use these marking. I think the blade is reshaped by a handy guy.

Regards,

Ed

[uwe]

Yes,

Japanese! But the number reminds me on an machine made NCO blade?!

 

And it has sori.....

[EdWolf]

Maybe you are right. Maybe the length of the hi can bring some light.

Regards, Ed

[lukeed]

Maybe you are right. Maybe the length of the hi can bring some light.

Regards, Ed

Hi Ed,

 

I'm a little new to this...what do you mean by "length of the hi"*?

[Brian]

Hi is the groove.

[lukeed]

Maybe you are right. Maybe the length of the hi can bring some light.

Regards, Ed

Hi Ed,

 

The hi is about 6" long.

[EdWolf]

Maybe someone can tell if there are nco blades with a 6 inch hi.

Regards, Ed

[EdWolf]

Hi Luke, do you think the hi is removed from the blade? Hard to tell from the pictures. 6 inch is very short.

[vajo]

I would go with Ed. Maybe a Japanese bayonett. The number on the blade is worse for a NCO. The are not typical. http://ohmura-study.net/791.html

 

But i have a feeling that it is not Japanese.

[EdWolf]

Hi Chris, the only indication of a Japanese blade is the marking. Maybe other countries also used a similar type of marking and is the blade not a Japanese blade.

Regards, Ed

[Death-Ace]

The Type 3 parts look to be original, I haven't seen many fakes of those and don't see a reason to fake them for this unless for a niche market.

 

The blade though I believe is 100% fake as the Nagoya arsenal mark is out of place and poorly done and no serial numbers were on Type 30 bayonet blades that I know of.