Jame5m Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 I've seen a sword.... this would be my first dable, it says it is signed Noshu Seki ju Kanesuki Tsukuvo Kove, it I can't find any info and my book hasn't arrived in the post yet! Any ideas? Quote
ROKUJURO Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 James,good photos of the NAKAGO (and of the whole blade) would help a lot! Perhaps the name is a bit different to read.Please compare and research 濃州関住兼幸造之 NOSHÛ SEKI no JÛ KANEYUKI TSUKURU KORE, swordsmith ID-list KAN 3157, SHOWA JIDAI Quote
Stephen Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 which Kane? you sure its suki? and not suke? Edit Jean san posted same time, is it the Kane he posted? Quote
Jame5m Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Posted August 22, 2017 No I'm not brave enough for eBay not for this kind of thing anyway! The description on the auction website says : 20th century Japanese katana sword with civilian mounts, iron tsuba with dragon chasing pearl, curved blade with wave hamon, signed on tang - 'Noshu Seki ju Kanesuki Tsukuvo Kove', in lacquered sheath, blade 62.5cm, 87cm overall CONDITION REPORT Some filling to blade and evidence of attempts to clean it What are the rules on posting links to auction sites? Quote
Stephen Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 If its over, none. ill wait for link, but bit worried, auction houses are notorious for not knowing what the have. Best plan is ask before you plunk down your hard earned cash. 1 Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 The condition report ought to cause you some worry, James. I'm not real sure what "Some filling to blade" means, but "attempts to clean it" is never a good thing to see. Ken Quote
Jame5m Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Posted August 22, 2017 The blade looks as though it has been attacked with wire wool or scotchbrite... Is there anyone in the uk that could polish up a blade? What would a rough cost be? Is it possible to do it yourself? Quote
Stephen Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 last question, NO! lets see the auction, make sure its not a knock off. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted August 22, 2017 Report Posted August 22, 2017 (Enter professional vs. amateur polishers argument here) The correct answer is no. There are no professionally trained polishers in the U.K., no you shouldn't do it yourself, and the cost is approximately $100/inch. I am having a daito polished in Japan with a mukansa level polished (Abe Kazunori) and without habaki and without shirasaya, it will cost in the ballpark of $2,750 (usd). There are cheaper options, but read "cheaper" as saving hundreds of dollars, not thousands. Quote
Alex A Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 Hi James, from one Nr Manc to another, don't waste your money on this sword, better to buy a sword already in decent polish.Especially if someone has gone over the blade with wire wool, could be hiding a crack (fatal). You see various quality in polishing around the UK at shows and online, some dealers just wanting a basic clean up for a sale.I hear Tony Norman down south does good work but very busy, expect to wait a long time, that's should he get the time wish to take it on.There are various arms shows around the UK, the main one being Birmingham, google northern arms fairs and go take a look, just to get an idea. Don't buy swords online unless you know what your doing, plenty of great sellers but sadly sellers out there waiting for unaware eager buyers, Ebay and the like being the worst, always ask if your unsure.Read some books, plenty of advice on here, do a search.You could speak to Bill at Liverpool Militaria, he might have something or know someone who does, he does the shows. Finally, always be SURE about what you buy, otherwise its a one way ticket to buyers REMORSE, so no rush. 3 Quote
Jame5m Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks for the advice Alex, I've spent some time at the arms fairs in the past but this is my first adventure into Swords, I'm waiting on my book order ATM and will be doing a lot of reading! And of course be hounding you guys with questions! Quote
Alex A Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 Forgot say, the Northern Token society hold meetings in Manchester. Quote
Gakusee Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 Les Stewart in Scotland and Tony Norman in Essex are two polishers I am familiar with in the UK but I have heard others mention the name of John Bolton. They have not "graduated" officially and have not had the long Japan-based training SGJ is referring to above. Tony has exchanged ideas and been coached a bit by Abe San but that does not extend to apprenticed full training. The polishing skills of both Les and Tony have evolved a lot in the last 10 years and as far as I have been told (and have seen) they have polished Hozon and TH level swords which passed those levels after those two gentlemen had polished the blades. For full disclosure, I have not used the services of any UK polishers but have seen blades owned by friends, which were polished by them. Quote
Jame5m Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 I've added some pics of the Mei in the translation furom Quote
Alex A Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 The blade looks as though it has been attacked with wire wool or scotchbrite... Not as I imagined Jamie, seen an awful lot worse attacked by wire wool Quote
Jame5m Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 They're pics of 708 which I'm warming to, The signed blade is attached.... Quote
Alex A Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 I see. Now that's the king of amateur polish Quote
Stephen Posted August 23, 2017 Report Posted August 23, 2017 James, if you dont get a great bargain, there are more than a few good swords for sale here in for sale section. 4 Quote
Jame5m Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Posted August 23, 2017 James, if you dont get a great bargain, there are more than a few good swords for sale here in for sale section. I noticed.... will be looking after tomorrow maybe! 2 Quote
Alex A Posted August 24, 2017 Report Posted August 24, 2017 You could always put an advert in the wanted section, with your budget. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted August 24, 2017 Report Posted August 24, 2017 Plenty of swords at similar price points that you can actually see activity and learn from them. This would be like getting a secondhand car with a homemade windshield. Quote
Stephen Posted August 24, 2017 Report Posted August 24, 2017 no word from James i see lot 719 the Kanekado went for 400 something GBP lot 708 went for 870 GBP bout $1000! Quote
Jame5m Posted August 24, 2017 Author Report Posted August 24, 2017 Just replied to your message Stephen, The bidding went crazy through that whole sale, i'll bide my time save some money and get something nice rather than rushing in for a bout of buyers remorse! Plus.... it gives me time to read the book that arrived in the post this morning And... keep showing the wife pictures of new Chinese junk that is cheap so I can play down how much it actually cost when I do buy! 1 Quote
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