temperline....?

[Jock]

Dear knowledgable folk,

 

I came across this blade on ebay and couldn't but wonder about the temperline appearance....any thoughts on this one?

 

almost forgot to post the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... otohosting

 

Regards, Jock

[Stephen]

jock

 

moved to Ebay section.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Strange....

 

[Brian]

 

Looks like a wartime blade to me, but not machine made. Not 100% traditional either imho.

I am not sure if that can be one loooong ware or maybe a join where an outer softer layer is meeting a harder edge layer? One of the many other construction methods using different steels that were done during WW2?

 

We tend to think of Shin Gunto in terms of either Gendaito or oil quenched partly machine made blades, but as F&G shows, there were a host of other methods used that can border between the 2. Different constructions, different steels. Many confusing techniques that are halfway between the 2.

 

No idea on this one 100%

 

Brian

[Brian]

Jacques.. 1 minute before me :D

Hmm..I cannot say anything with any degree of certainty on this one.

 

Brian

[Guest Simon Rowson]

Even the mounts are a tad strange on this one - early gunto tsuka/ tsuba and late war saya.

 

Possible I suppose as, by the end of the war, there was some mixing and matching going on but I wouldn't rule out a post-war assembly either (especially judging by the tacky hanger strap that doesn't conform to any pattern I've ever seen).

 

Just my thoughts.

[drbvac]

Almost looks like a forging fold that was polished down rather than a real temperline at the top - would be interesting to see if there is actually a small lip or defect at the top of the hamon.

 

As stated - mounts are a mismatch and saya has been painted recently.

 

Don't think I would add it to my collection

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

Maybe a Warihatetsu overpolished and re-assembled after the war.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Maybe.....

 

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

Yes, I understand what you're meaning, but the Kissaki, the only acceptable pic other

then the one we're discussing, seems not to show a "chiseled"/badly acid manipulated

temperline.

 

 

*If* all the pics belongs to the same blade.

 

Not worthy of any attention, obviously.