NihontoNewbie Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 I haven't received these yet as I am still waiting for the permit from Japan to export. They are both unsigned but I am hoping it's a good start to a collection. I got them both for a fairly reasonable price (I think). I am just starting so please be patient with me. Is this a decent start? The wakizashi is from the Mino school. It was made around 1688 or so I am told. It appears to be in good condition. I will have measurements and better picture once I receive them. The tanto is from the mid 1850's unsigned from the Bizen school. 1 Quote
Fuuten Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Dear.. Welcome, I'm sure you'll enjoy and appreciate your time on this board. Both look real, polish looks good, and both have papers (albeit older ones). Depending on the price i think you did alright. I hope you enjoy your purchases, treat them well. Did you also receive or buy a maintenance kid? You should read up on that if you haven't really done anything like owning nihonto before. Kind regards, Quote
NihontoNewbie Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Posted June 21, 2017 I have been an avid gun collector for thirty years. I am just getting started with the nihonto. I have other katana but they are geared towards the practitioner side. I think the maintenance kits that comes with those swords are lacking. I need to purchase a quality maintenance kit. Any ideas on the best place to obtain one? Most of the kits online are cheap Chinese kits with baby powdered filled uchiko. I don't mind telling what I paid. I might get better insight if I know whether I paid to much... Wakizashi was 1350 usd Tanto was 800 usd Quote
dominnimod Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 I have been an avid gun collector for thirty years. I am just getting started with the nihonto. I have other katana but they are geared towards the practitioner side. I think the maintenance kits that comes with those swords are lacking. I need to purchase a quality maintenance kit. Any ideas on the best place to obtain one? Most of the kits online are cheap Chinese kits with baby powdered filled uchiko. I don't mind telling what I paid. I might get better insight if I know whether I paid to much... Wakizashi was 1350 usd Tanto was 800 usd It's a good price imho keeping in mind they are in polish, shirasaya, papered and the waki even have mountings, very nice 1 Quote
mauser99 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 They both look very nice.. I see you live in Boston Im about 25 minutes south of you. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 For maintenance I advise a light, clear gun oil and a high quality microfibre cloth. Don't go near your new swords with those cheap chinese "maintenance" kits. 3 Quote
Vermithrax16 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Nice! Glad too see more New Englanders! Quote
NihontoNewbie Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Posted June 21, 2017 Wow! Looks like there are a couple local enthusiasts near me. I am actually a little north of Boston. It's a small town called Ipswich, great seafood and antique shops. Thanks for all the feedback. This is the type of forum I really enjoy. Friendly, informed people with a lot to offer! 1 Quote
Grey Doffin Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Ditto what John said about the kit: all you need is light oil and microfibre. Here is a care and etiquette site: http://www.nbthk-ab.org/Etiquette.htm Grey Quote
Greg F Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Hi Erick and welcome. Congrats on the new blades it looks like you got a fair deal. Its not a good idea to use uchiko on blades in polish, just micro fibre and a thin coat of oil as John said above in all. All the best. Greg Quote
NihontoNewbie Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Posted June 21, 2017 Ok... got it. NO uchiko! I do have plenty of clear Rem oil that I will use to oil the blade. Thanks for the link, it had a wealth of informations. Quote
Geraint Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Well Erik, I think you did well. (No one has mentioned the amazing habaki!). To start your research have a look here, http://www.sho-shin.com/edo-echizen.html Enjoy. 1 Quote
dominnimod Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Well Erik, I think you did well. (No one has mentioned the amazing habaki!). To start your research have a look here, http://www.sho-shin.com/edo-echizen.html Enjoy. True, that habaki is an impressive work of art on it's own Quote
NihontoNewbie Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Posted June 21, 2017 Here is some addition info on the wakizashi. The habaki is what really caught my eye! 脇差 WAKIZASHI ANTIQUE Japanese SWORD NBTHK KICHO 41.9cm UNSIGNED兼植KANETANE MINO SCHOOL MID EDO 脇差 Wakizashi Antique Japanese Sword, Unsigned 越前 兼植 Echizen Kanetane Hacho(Cutting edge,Blade length): 41.9cm 美濃伝 Mino School 越前 兼法 派 Echizen Knenori-Group (Disciple of Echizen Knenori ) 新刀 Shinto (New Swords) 江戸時代中期 Mid Edo period (around 元禄 Genroku era 1688 s ) With the certificate of 貴重刀剣 NBTHK Kicho Token Paper NBTHK (The Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai) With Koshirae ・Made this sword around Mid Edo period (around 元禄 Genroku era 1688 s ) ・The category of this sword is新刀 Shinto (New Swords). ・兼植 Kanetane , living in越前国 (Echizen-no-kuni), Now, 福井県 ( Fukui Pref.) was the famous swordsmith in越前国 (Echizen-no-kuni) . ・This sword seems to show all the characteristics of越前 兼法 派 Echizen Knenori-Group`s work. ・The Hamon (temper line) is 互の目乱れ Gonome-midare. ・地肌 Jihada(forging grain) is 板目肌 Itame-Hada. ・Certificate of Authenticity, authenticated by NBTHK (The Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozon Kyokai) on April 19, 1970. (No. 188130) 貴重刀剣 Kicho Token Paper -We phoned NBTHK and confirmed the certificate. ・Old polish ・There are tiny scratches due to in and out from the scabbard. ・There are tiny kitae-kizu. ・Beautiful and elegant appearance with age appropriate. ・Attachment: Shirasaya,Tsunagi <Koshirae> ・This Koshirae was made around Late Edo to fit this sword ・縁Fuchi is design of馬Uma (Horse) . ・頭Kashira is design of龍Ryu (Dragon) . ***Please see the pictures # 11 ・The pair of 目貫 Menuki is琴奏者 Koto player(琴Koto : long Japanese zither) ***Please see the pictures # 11 ・小柄 Kozuka is design of 馬Uma (Horse) . ・鍔Tsuba is design of 卒塔婆 Sotoba (Stupa, Grave marker ) <Blade> Hacho(Cutting edge,Blade length): 41.9cm Sori (Curvature): 0.7cm Motomihaba (Width at the Hamachi): 2.89cm Motokasane(Thickness of Motokasane): 6.3mm Sakimihaba: 2.31cm Sakikasane: 5.4mm Nakago (The tang of the blade) Length: 14.8cm Material: Iron 刃文 ,Hamon (temper line): 互の目乱れGonome-midare. 地肌 Jihada(forging grain): 板目肌 Its Itami -Hada. Tsukurikomi: Shinogi zukuri #of Mekugi-ana(the hole for the mekugi): 1 Signature: None Weight(Approx.): 420g –Blade only Condition: Old polish There are tiny scratches due to in and out from the scabbard, There are tiny kitae-kizu. -Koshirae – Saya (Scabbard)> Size(Approx): 56.1cm(Length) Material: Wood, Condition: Age appropriate <Tsuka (Hilt)> Size: 17.1cm (Length) Material: Wood, Sharkskin, Dark brown Tsukaito Condition: Age appropriate <縁頭Fuchi,Kashira> 頭 Kashira Design: 龍Ryu (Dragon) Material: 赤銅 Shakudo , Gold Technique: Takabori 縁Fuchi Design: 馬Uma (Horse) Material: 赤銅 Shakudo , Condition: Age appropriate. <目貫 Menuki> Design: 琴奏者 Koto player(琴 Koto : long Japanese zither) Material: 赤銅 Shakudo, Condition: Age appropriate. <鍔 Tsuba> Design: 卒塔婆 Sotoba (Stupa,Grave marker ) Material: Iron Technique: 磨き地 Migaki-ji,小透かし Ko-sukashi Condition: Age appropriate. <小柄Kozuka> Design: 馬Uma (Horse) Material: 赤銅 Shakudo, Gold Technique: 魚子地 Nanako-ji, Takabori Condition: Age appropriate <Habaki> Design: 月夜 Tsukiyo ( Moonlight night) Material: 赤銅 Shakudo, Gold, Silver Technique: 色絵象嵌 Iroe- Inlay Condition: Age appropriate <Seppa> Material: Copper Two seppa Total weigh (Approx.) blade and Koshirae: 841g Total length (Koshirae): 73.75cm Shirasaya,Tsunagi : 242g Quote
Brian Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 ...Did you also receive or buy a maintenance kid? ... Man! I would LOVE a little guy whose sole job it is to run around the house taking care of my swords! Where do I get one? :rotfl: 5 Quote
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SAS Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Beware of the maintenance kid, i had bokken class for my aikido kids last night for their first time; after being taught protocols and safety, one girl promptly disregarded instructions and quasi-impaled the boy student next to her in the groin! Could a "Maintenance Kid" be much better?! jk Nice swords! 1 Quote
dominnimod Posted June 21, 2017 Report Posted June 21, 2017 Beware of the maintenance kid, i had bokken class for my aikido kids last night for their first time; after being taught protocols and safety, one girl promptly disregarded instructions and quasi-impaled the boy student next to her in the groin! Could a "Maintenance Kid" be much better?! jk Nice swords! Shameful disprayyy! Did she at least recovered her honor commiting sepukku? Jk, forgive my black humour Quote
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