I Ask For Help In The Indetification Of The Sword.

[nektoalex]

Greetings!

I ask to express my opinion on the attribution of this sword. There are slight distortions of the sword's geometry in full-size photographs.

 

Blade length : 71.8 cm.. 

Sori :0.15 сm..

Mekugi : 3.

Width at the hamachi : 3.0cm..

Width at the Kissaki : 2.0cm.. 

Kasane : 0.67 cm..

 

I will be grateful for any comments and opinions.

Regards,

Alexsandr

P.S. 

 

Fixed the long-pointed it wrong with the tsuka.

[Jean]

Bakumatsu Satsuma ?

[Brian]

Far too straight.
If I have to guess, I would say it came from a shizue komi (walking stick/sword cane)
Only reason I can think it would have that sugata. Seems fairly generic, not much that can be said about it.

[Shugyosha]

Suriage kanbun shinto??

[Jim P]

Hi John, IMHO too straight even for 99% of kanbun swords. I am with Brian walking stick/sword cane

[PNSSHOGUN]

  On 6/18/2017 at 9:46 AM, Brian said:

Far too straight.

If I have to guess, I would say it came from a shizue komi (walking stick/sword cane)

Only reason I can think it would have that sugata. Seems fairly generic, not much that can be said about it.

I'm with Brian on this one, very similar to many shizue komi I've seen. Would be more interesting if it still had the cane koshirae.

[Stephen]

[Ken-Hawaii]

If it's for a shikomizue, it's a higher-quality blade than any I've seen. All the others have been junk!

 

Ken

 

[nektoalex]

I thank all the participants in the discussion. The sword in its time was bought at auction Bohams with the following description- "A katana unsigned, koto. the straight blade with three mekugi-ana, narrow notare midare hamon, mokume hada, fully bound tsuka with replacement wood kashira and iron fuchi decorated with gilt mushrooms, large copper and gilt shi-shi menuki, and  mokko-shaped lacquered lether tsuba, in its red and black speckled lacquer saya" . I suspected that the period of the sword could be specified incorrectly. Found a very similar option on the following link - http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/16612-loyalist-blade/ .

Regards,

Alexsandr

[Jean]

That's what I meant in my post but I am far from a shinshinto period specialist... only shinsa could say what it is

 

It is not a Kanbun sword and (I am not a specialist remember) but the only swords I can remember with so little sori are these Shinshinto blades. There are probably smiths over century who could have forged these swords. Brian's idea is a very very good alternative, the only one I see.

[Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini]

  On 6/18/2017 at 10:22 AM, Shugyosha said:

Suriage kanbun shinto??

 

Maybe you're right ? Seems to see shingane at the bottom of the nakago and three holes plus relatvely good quality are strange for a sword-cane. 

[nagamaki - Franco]

Greetings,

 

At one time I owned a mumei straight as an arrow katana cane sword very much like this piece, with NBTHK TokuHo origami to late Kamakura period Yamato Nio complete with very clear easy to see ladder utsuri, as well as matching almost all other text book descriptions for school and time period. 

My guess, and it's only a guess, is that people, samurai, way back when, needed swords and canes, too. 

 

The polish on the subject sword, unfortunately, makes kantei difficult. Be that as it may, caution is still in order jumping to pigeonhole conclusions.

[nektoalex]

Hello dear community! Time has passed... the experience of photographing jamon patterns on Japanese blades has come. I present a photo of a blade with a visible pattern of jamon. Perhaps this will bring certainty to the understanding of the subject. Any comments are welcome . Sincerely, Alexander

[Larason2]

It's weird for a katana to be so straight, as the others have said. The metallurgy of this piece is also strange. It's made from a single piece of folded steel, albeit of good quality and having a decent polish. The geometry is strange for a katana, it feels too boxy and not triangular enough for me. The hamon is almost dangerously close to the edge in places, suggesting it was done that way to avoid it bending out of shape during quenching. Not sure when it was made, but I can't see any other explanation than sword cane. At least it is a pretty nice one!