cisco-san Posted June 16, 2017 Report Posted June 16, 2017 Hello, I know that we should not buy papers... but a TH blade for less than 4,4K USD is quite cheap. http://www.sword-auction.jp/en/content/as17136%E5%88%80%EF%BC%9A%E7%84%A1%E9%8A%98%E4%B8%8B%E5%8E%9F-katana-mumei-shimohara Quote
mywei Posted June 16, 2017 Report Posted June 16, 2017 Looks like Hozon. Mumei Shinto Shitahara blade,I think priced accordingly Quote
cisco-san Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Posted June 16, 2017 Looks like Hozon. Mumei Shinto Shitahara blade,I think priced accordingly Yes, description is a little bit confusing, but paper looks like TH?! But maybe I am wrong Quote
mywei Posted June 16, 2017 Report Posted June 16, 2017 No it's Hozon 保存刀剣 There's no 特別 on the paper Quote
cisco-san Posted June 16, 2017 Author Report Posted June 16, 2017 No it's Hozon 保存刀剣 There's no 特別 on the paper Many thanks for clarification! 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 16, 2017 Report Posted June 16, 2017 I meant to write to Tsuruta-san regarding this error last night. You need to carefully scrutinize these listings because errors like this seem to often slip through, like the Hokke wakizashi that was similarly misdescribed as having Tokubetsu Hozon recently. This particular sword, being a mumei shinto blade only attributed to a school, does not meet the requirements for Tokubetsu Hozon. Best regards, Ray 2 Quote
Stephen Posted June 16, 2017 Report Posted June 16, 2017 they also miss labled the second wakisashi down which set a beloved members heart a thumping! until he clicked and read the blade https://www.aoijapan.com/japaneseswords/wakizashi Oite Toyama Mitsuru Teinai Shigetsugu......NOT!! Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted June 17, 2017 Report Posted June 17, 2017 I'm still shaken up by the whole experience. 3 Quote
Curran Posted June 17, 2017 Report Posted June 17, 2017 I can see how it could be confused for a Shigetsugu or a Shigemasa. [only joking a little] Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted June 18, 2017 Report Posted June 18, 2017 Lol. Well, i think I'll get over it in time. Does the blade immediately remind me of Shigetsugu? No, but the time between reading and clicking was nano-seconds. Oh well, all good things come to those who wait I suppose. 1 Quote
Hoshi Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 Those AOIjapan typos really garner a lot of attention! The clerks there really struggle keeping up with the volume. I don't really get why collectors are using heuristics such as "cheap for paper category of tier X". Is it resell value? It's compounded by the fact that websites selling to foreign markets generally do arbitrage with blades that won't sell well on the Japanese market. I mean, if you're in Japan dealing with a wholesaler, it makes sense, as prices are notably lower than when dealing with boutique stores and this is reflected in the impression of a bargain (e.g. if you get in the good graces of Hataya...) - but in this context its just asking for trouble. From the nuggets of wisdom I've been collecting on this forum, the foremost appraisal of value for a mumei blade is the attribution to the smith, papers are secondary. I tend to look for the opposite pattern - good looking blades that seem undervalued - and then again my judgement is in its infancy, hence I'd rather defer to more experienced collectors. Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 The Unju did not receive any bids at auction. http://www.sword-auction.jp/en/content/as17246-刀:無銘-雲重第62回重要刀剣-katanamumei-unjunbthk-62th-tokubetsu-juyo-paper But sold shortly afterwards. https://www.aoijapan.com/katanamumei-unju 1 Quote
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