Mark Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 Please see pictures. Well made, seems quite old. I have never seen something like this, one side has a shell or snail or similar that makes it easy to grasp and slide Quote
Brian Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 It's a tuning fork for a samurai piano :rotfl: 3 Quote
PhoenixDude Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 one side has a shell or snail or similar that makes it easy to grasp and slide Its a sake gourd. Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 The only modern era fork I remember like that is for olives, or pickles I guess. There are museum pieces similar when forks were just becoming fashionable. 1500 or so. John Quote
Pete Klein Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 As John mentioned, modern version by Georg Jensen: Quote
Alex A Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 Found this on a search, says Antique Japanese dessert fork, ebay listing that cant be viewed now. No idea how old, bad picture Quote
Henry Wilson Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 Is it for moving charcoal around in the fire for tea ceremony? Quote
Pete Klein Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 These are what are used for the coal: They are long metal hashi. I am not aware of the Japanese term. Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 Pete, they are called Hibashi 火箸 Fire Chopsticks. John Quote
Mark Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Posted June 11, 2017 thanks....... so a fork of some type. I don't think it is modern. I will bring it to Orlando and maybe get some input. It looks like the one Alex found. The back is flat and the front rounded, so if it were used in a saya it would fit and slide in but maybe it was made that way for another purpose Quote
Stephen Posted June 11, 2017 Report Posted June 11, 2017 some bits of meat, vegs, used on habachi? Quote
Lance Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 Looks very similar to the little fork found as one of the side tools in European Hunting swords/hangers or more specifically a trousse knife? I think these were most popular in Europe 1500-late 1700s usually attributed as made in Germany. Sometimes the tools were carried in little pockets in the scabbards of long frighting swords too; The proportions are a little off compared to European versions, yours seems like it was made to fit in a saya pocket like an umabari but I think it's reasonable to think influence at least. Attached an image below, more examples can be seen with google images using search terms trousse knife or hunting hanger sword. It may seem like a reach but if you look carefully the silhouette they matches the decorative profile of where the handle and blade/fork often meet on the trousse accessories. Yours is definitely of Japanese make, maybe once part of a set made for a European traveler or or ordered by a Japanese person due to one of the many bouts of fascination with Europeans and their dress? Regards, Lance 1 Quote
Mark Posted June 12, 2017 Author Report Posted June 12, 2017 maybe a European in Japan who could wear a sword? I would think Japanese would use split wari kogai chopsticks that i see often. Quote
Bazza Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 Lance wrote: > Sometimes the tools were carried in little pockets in the scabbards of long frighting swords too Surely this was meant to be frightening swords... BaZZa (Resident #2 Smarta##s) 1 Quote
Lance Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 OOPS, meant fighting but surely they can be Lance wrote: > Sometimes the tools were carried in little pockets in the scabbards of long frighting swords too Surely this was meant to be frightening swords... BaZZa (Resident #2 Smarta##s) LOL meant fighting, too funny to go back and edit Regards, Lance P.S. Now this is a frighting sword! Quote
Toryu2020 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 Mark Im sure you know that the Japanese were very fadish about new and different items introduced from abroad. I would see this as late Edo but still an example of Japanese ingenuity copying some European model. You may have located the prototype for all the little Yokan forks that are now ubiquitous in Japanese homes! -t Quote
Ted Tenold Posted June 12, 2017 Report Posted June 12, 2017 That's funny Tom. I immediately thought of a Yokan fork also. :-) Quote
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