Bungo Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 http://www.esnips.com/doc/b54998a0-76e8 ... 8f/pilgrim Have this for a long time and remains one of my favorite. Still trying to pin down the school without spending the $ on shinsa. Hakone-bori /aka Shoten ? any opinion/suggestions welcome. milt Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 Milt, The e-snips site says your link is broken, no pic. John Quote
Bungo Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Posted March 15, 2008 I clicked und I get pic...... anyway, no matter, here's the attached pic milt Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 Certainly looks Omi school. Everything matches. So Kitagawa Souheishi copy? John Quote
docliss Posted March 16, 2008 Report Posted March 16, 2008 Dear Milt I am convinced that if you submitted this tsuba for shinsa it would be labelled Hikone-bori. But perhaps you, like me, feel that this label is frequently a cop-out. After all, it merely describes work that TAS calls ‘a combination of low relief, line carving, some shishiai, detailed iroye inlay and elaborate openwork ... in reality but one type of ubu-sukashi.’ Some months ago I posted an iron tsuba of the ‘SÅten style’ in which many members identified a ChÅshÅ« influence , but agreed unanimously to label as Hikone-bori; I am re-posting it here. This bears some resemblance to your own tsuba, being mumei; in a black patinated iron; and demonstrating a formality and aloofness in the depiction of the figures that is completely absent both from SÅten work and its recognised copyists. This is thus set apart from many of the groups that ‘copied’ the SÅten style and will, I am sure, eventually be identified as emanating from a specific area or school. Regards, John L. Quote
Bungo Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Posted March 19, 2008 " Certainly looks Omi school. Everything matches. So Kitagawa Souheishi copy? John " anymore info on that ? thanks, milt Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 Hi Milt, I have some pics of recognised Soten tsubas with one being so similar in style to yours that it makes me attribute it to that style. Not knowing if yours is by the man himself but in the style of. The one that is so similar I will have to photograph as it is a print not electronic but shall post it. John Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 Here is the documented Omi tsuba Milt. It is a scan of a pic, so poor, but, you can see the similarities. Even the hitsuana conform. John Quote
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