PhoenixDude Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 hey all, I recently purcahsed a O-Kogatana (pardon the misnomer), and i cant find much information about them, besides the fact they were an uncommon accessory. Does anyone have any more insight onto the subject of these? Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 I have one I bought from Curran a while ago. Here, http://www.johnstuart.biz/new_page_15.htm John Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 Here is a corrected link: http://www.johnstuart.biz/new_page_15.htm So what exactly makes an O-kogatana? My new addition of another Shigemasa Kogatana arrived today. When I pulled out the first one I bought, the new one looked HUGE! One problem I've always had is that I cannot visualize size and shapes. Technically speaking I have HORRIBLE spacial awareness. So when I saw that the new one is over 22 cm, it didn't register as large or small. But like I said, when I looked at it against the first one, which measures at nearly 16 cm, it just dwarfs the 16 cm kogatana. It's actually has a longer nagasa than a mamorigatan tanto I have by Miyaguchi Ikkansai Toshihiro. Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 I don't believe O-kogatana and their attendant Kozuka were ever part of koshirae. They were stand alone knives. John Quote
Henry Wilson Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 From Tosogu no Kigen Posted from iPhone so they might need resetting. 1 1 Quote
Bazza Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/8/2017 at 5:38 AM, John A Stuart said: I don't believe O-kogatana and their attendant Kozuka were ever part of koshirae. They were stand alone knives. John Long ago a friend had a tanto (maybe it was a kowakizashi) with an O-kogatana and O-kozuka in the saya. It was a long time ago but somewhere around I still have oshigata and photographs. So John, there is at least one found in a koshirae. The blade was very unusual with a snake horimono. The nakago was extensively signed. I'll post it when I next stumble across the info I've got... BaZZa. 2 Quote
Curran Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 There was a display in Tampa Sword Show of O-kogatana kozuka. Having seen about a dozen exceptionally fine examples, I am inclined to believe they were mounted somehow. There was an early Goto one that I wondered if it was Juyo or not. It was that exceptional. I was not expecting the level of workmanship seen in many of them. It made me wonder at what level of social heirarchy they would be associated. Definitely up a notch or two from any previous notion. 1 Quote
PhoenixDude Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Posted June 9, 2017 It came in today! Many thanks to Danny Massey, Its huge! Tanto size even! 2 Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 OK, it would be great to see one mounted. I had always thought of them as stand alone presentation pieces, gifts. I have one made by Tsunehiro that has such a beautiful Saya/ Koshirae that it would be a shame to mount it at all. john 1 Quote
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