markp Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 If anyone could please help me figure this out that would be wonderful! Quote
Jean Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 First learn how signature are done: http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/kanji/kanji1.htm You can do it yourself with the links attached. Starting from the top, two first kanji are the province http://www.jssus.org/nkp/kanji_for_provinces.html Then with the link provided, it is easy: http://www.jssus.org/nkp/kanji_for_mei.html So, For the following kanji look for eight strokes Then for the following one, look in the first link, it is given in one of the examples Following one is "nin" Then the two last kanji are the smith name: First one: Look at 8 strokes Second one: Look at 11 strokes So it gives (initials) H Z K. J Nin T K Try to find two or three kanji and I'll give you the answer tomorrow (if nobody has done it before) 6 Quote
Katsujinken Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 Jean's excellent directions (and the invaluable Japanese Sword Index) truly make it easy! Give it a shot. :-) Quote
Bazza Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Yes, give it a shot. I read it off the top of my head and no doubt dozens of others have too. You can do it. Gambatte kudasai... BaZZa. Quote
cisco-san Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Mark, I know it is quite hard to start to translate. But with the advise of Jean you should be able. By the way, some more hints: Hi ZeKuJuNinTaKi One more hint: Try on https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/meisearch?type=All&field_smith_signature_value_op=contains&field_smith_signature_value=ietada?type=All&field_smith_signature_value_op=contains&field_smith_signature_value=ietadato add "hi%ze%ku%ta%ki" in the field below "contains" and the result will show you the right answer. Good luck! However, I guess Jean will give you the answer in the next couple of hours. Quote
Stephen Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 well he could be a bit overwhelmed, why not give all except for name Quote
Jean Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Ok Stephen Hi Zen (nom propre de la province) Kuni = province Ju = résident/habitant Nin Ta. Smith name, I have already given you the hints where to look Ki Quote
Michaelr Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Jean, I am new to the board and new to collecting Japanese Swords. I am trying to learn all I can and try and read the post on the board a couple times a day. When I read your first post I thought to myself " Wow What A Snotty guy with a Snotty Answer" THEN I went to the link that you posted and said " WOW THANK YOU JEAN" That is a link that I can understand and study to help myself learn. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. To all the others that also chimed in Thank You Also. This site is the best that I have found and everyone hear ROCKS. I know that I won't always be a newbie but for now I am and all the help I get here helps. I learn something here every day. Please keep up the Great Work. Thanks. Again Mike 5 Quote
Katsujinken Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Had a chance to check Fujishiro and couldn't find Tadakiyo. Anyone else know anything more about the smith (or at least which Tadakiyo we have here) for our new friend? Quote
Stephen Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 afew now for you to work out which one...lol TADAKIYO (忠清), Shōhō (正保, 1644-1648), Satsuma – “Sasshū-jū Tadakiyo” (薩州住忠清), founder of the Oku lineage (奥) named after his family name, real name Oku Jirōbei (奥次郎兵衛), dense itame, suguha, gunome-midare, ō-notare mixed with midare, chūjō-saku TADAKIYO (忠清), 1st gen., Kan´ei (寛永, 1624-1644), Hizen – “Hishū Saga-jū Tadakiyo saku” (肥州佐賀住 忠清作), “Hishū Saga-jū Fujiwara Tadakiyo saku” (肥州佐賀住藤原忠清作), first names Shinbei (新兵衛) and Shinzaemon (新左衛門), student of the 1st gen. Tadayoshi (忠吉), there are mostly katana and wakizashi but hardly any tantō extant, dense ko-itame with ji-nie, gunome-chōji or suguha in nie-deki with a wide nioiguchi, the bōshi is sugu with a ko-maru-kaeri, some blades show horimono, jō-saku TADAKIYO (忠清), 2nd gen., Kanbun (寛文, 1661-1673), Hizen – “Tadakiyo” (忠清), “Hizen no Kuni Shimōsa no Daijō Fujiwara Tadakiyo” (肥前国下総大掾藤原忠清), first name Gorōzaemon (五郎左衛門), he signed first with Harukuni (治国), he received the honorary title Shimōsa no Daijō in the twelfth month of the fifth year of Kanbun (1665), dense ko-itame with fine ji-nie, chū-suguha in ko-nie-deki, also notare mixed with gunome and sunagashi, the bōshi is sugu with a ko-maru-kaeri, wazamono, chūjō-saku TADAKIYO (忠清), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Saga – “Tadakiyo” (忠清), family name Ōta (太田), rikugun-jumei-tōshō, ryōkō no jōi (Akihide), Fifth Seat at the 6th Shinsaku Nihontō Denrankai (新作日本刀展覧会, 1941) 1 Quote
Jean Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 Smith name is as mentionned above: Tada Kiyo. Quote
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