Stephen Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 Old question thats been kicking around for some time. Other than aesthetic's does a full tsunagi serve a purpose? Does it keep lower inside of saya from swelling? Or would half a one serve just as well. I have saya coming in with one and was wondering what or if it would be a minus if only half size. Quote
Stephen Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Posted April 6, 2017 Tasty !! back to OQ does a a complete tsunagi serve a better function? Guess its never been thought about or its just a stupid question. Quote
Greg F Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 Fair question Stephen, i have wondered myself. I think the main purpose apart from keeping it all together would be to keep moisture out with habaki and i spose if its full length maybe there could be less movement if its not %100 tight. Greg 1 Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 I think Axel's answer makes sense. Without the tsunagi, the koshirae couldn't remain as one piece, & with the tsuka disconnected, the koiguchi would be left wide-open for bugs/dust/gunk to gather. Simple Japanese engineering came up with the tsunagi. Ken Quote
Stephen Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 Who said anything about no tsunagi??? Quote
Brian Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 To answer the original question....No Stephen, I think practically, a short "part" tsunagi is just as functional as a full size one. The proper "full length" one that duplicates the sword exactly is likely just for aesthetic purposes.No disadvantage to only having a few inches of blade replicated aside from the fact that your saya may wobble a little bit more, but since it isn't handled too much, should be fine. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 with a proper habaki fit, id expect no wobble, so ten inch or twenty seven should be no matter. 1 Quote
Guido Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 What Brian said, except for the wobbling part . Katana often have what's called a "han-tsunagi", half tsunagi. They perfectly hold the koshirae together, but it's less work to make them. 3 Quote
Michaelr Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 Just a thought from a new guy. Could the purpose of a full length Tsunagi be to show the curvature of the blade? Since it seem like a Saya that is already made-as opposed to one made custom for a specific blade-, may not fit every blade curve the full length Ttsunagi would give a better example for proper fit than a " half length " one? Mike 1 Quote
Stephen Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 Good thoughts Mike, and half or shorter may fit many saya and not one with deeper sori. Quote
Guido Posted April 8, 2017 Report Posted April 8, 2017 Reversed thinking. In the vast majority of cases, a tsunagi is made to hold the koshirae together after the sword is polished, to avoid that the blade will be scratched or otherwise soiled by the old saya - not as a template for another sword being used in the old mountings. A han-tsunagi costs a little less than two thirds of a full one, but since tsunagi aren't that expensive anyhow, most people will opt for the 1:1 version. OTOH, a koshirae without tsunagi is rare, but not unheard of, so going for a half-length one might save a lot of work (and paying a premium). 1 Quote
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