Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Hi all Having a practice and have come up with the following. ? ? Showa 19 = 1944 Nen = year San + Gatsu = March ? Unfortunately I can’t make head nor tales of the 1st, 2nd, or 8th kanji. Any help or a prod in the right direction would be much appreciated Regards Frank Quote
Stephen Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 you have the first two Showa, i would like to know the first name of this Shigetsugu...yes seen it on ebay. Quote
Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks Stephen theres no pulling the wool over your eyes but in my defense every so often I just look at what is there and have a go at translating it, it is one way to learn. As for the first two kanji I could not find any thing close to Sho-Wa not written that way? What about the last one though regards Frank Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Yes, you're there to all intents and purposes! Congratulations. And Stephen is correct. (Star) æ˜å’Œåä¹å¹´ä¸‰æœˆæ—¥ (Star) Sho Wa Ju Ku Nen San Gatsu Hi (The last Kanji can be read as Jitsu, depending on context, but with same meaning) (Star) Sho-wa Teen-Nine Third Month Day = 1st day of March, Showa 19 Quote
Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks Piers Just to clarify "Ju, Ku, and Hi/Jitsu" are the one's that I could'nt get. The star by itself means Showa? or is it the combination of "star, Ju, Ku? that would be read as Showa? regards Frank Quote
sencho Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Frank, You got it all in your first post.... Visit Richard Steins site to read about what the Star stamp (it is a stamp by the way) and other stamps meaning. The fist two kanji (below the star) are SHO WA.... characters are a little stylized so it may not look quite like what you expect when compared to typed kanji. then JU and KU and NEN - 19th year then SAN and GATSU - 3rd Month then HI - Day (basically can be read by us as "a day in") æ˜ - SHO å’Œ - WA å - JU - 10 ä¹ - KU - 9 å¹´ - NEN - YEAR 三 - SAN - 3 月 - GATSU - MONTH æ—¥ - HI - DAY Cheers! Quote
Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Thank you Piers and Sencho, for your patience and clarification. I did try Richard Steins site but unfortunately he has run out of band width again. Best regards Frank Quote
Stephen Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 this is the other side, whats interesting is this Shigetsugu, looks to have been carved by the same smith that did Shigefusa, a story that may call for looking into. his mirror site works http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/gendai2.htm Quote
Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Yes Stephen it would be interesting to unravel that story, and thanks for the link Best regards Frank Quote
Paul Martin Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 I think its Aizu Ju Shigetsugu Saku Best Quote
Stephen Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Aizu ju...so des, Hai domoarigatogozaimasuta Paul sama, in Doc Stiens site under RIKUGUN JUMEI TOSHO SWORDSMITHS they list a Wakabayashi Shigetsugu which is the way Shigefusa signed his first name see (Sloughs pg. 157). I wonder if its the same smith and he used dif, name at dif forges. Quote
Paul Martin Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Actually, There is an oshigata of this blade on my gallery page. It was NOT my sword at any time, someone asked me to take an oshigata for them. Just out of curiosity could someone provide me with a link to the sale please. Best Quote
Splidge Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Paul Here is the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=012 regards Frank Quote
Paul Martin Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Thank you. Correction, but an interesting one. It is not the same sword, but one with a serial number with a difference of 13, and a painted number with a difference of 10. Best Quote
Stephen Posted February 26, 2008 Report Posted February 26, 2008 Frank & Paul did you look at the saku on the Shigefusa very close to the Shigetsugu, and dont think ive seen any others sign with that stroke count Quote
Paul Martin Posted February 28, 2008 Report Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Stephen, I think it is definitely Saku, his Aizu and Ju are also quite funky :lol: Best Quote
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