yamabiru Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Reposting this as it was lost in the problem So the Tobacco and Salt museum in Tokyo (JT) confirmed what I thought that kiseru started out around 1600 with large bowls , hizara, and then proceeded to shrink over the next two and a half centuries https://www.jti.co.jp/Culture/museum/collection/tobacco/t11/index.html ◆きせる（江戸初期〜幕末） My collection with oldest at top 17th century bronze! 2 Quote
Brian Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Extensive collection! Congrats. 1 Quote
Jean Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 As a pipe smoker, very nice collection 1 Quote
yamabiru Posted February 28, 2017 Author Report Posted February 28, 2017 Thanks much gents! Took a few years of hard work. Tokyo Edo museum also confirms some of my pipes are 17 th C. https://www.edo-tokyo-museum.or.jp/blog/exhibition-report/11854/地域展「掘り出された江戸の町－一橋高校遺跡出 The oldest kiseru is at the bottom , found in strata layer 4 of their excavation Next up also layer 4 both from approx before the time of great fire of 1657 Explanations of strata https://www.edo-tokyo-museum.or.jp/assets/img/2016/06/syo201606_3.jpg https://www.edo-tokyo-museum.or.jp/assets/img/2016/06/syo201606_2.jpg The two kiseru styles at the top are therefore post 1657. Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 I have one modern one just to place in my case for completeness. I have used one before with loose tobacco and it was harsh, very harsh. I see them used to hold cigarrettes occasionally. Use would be almost a ritual, packing, lighting, smoking, tapping out the wattle, repeat. John Quote
Dr Fox Posted February 28, 2017 Report Posted February 28, 2017 Well done you, very interesting. Same idea here in the UK, where clay pipes are collected. Thanks for that. Quote
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