goose710 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 Gentlemen I have a very large sword I bought from AOI Art Sword , that is giving me issues. The sword is wonderful , it's in shirasaya , and there lies the problem. The sword is 33.5" long forged by higo kuni yatsuhiro ju akamatsu it's a big one! Ok , now for the problem, the shirisaya is so tight I can't close it ! didn't always be that way , I open to oil about 5/6 months, it's gotten progressively tighter I now can't close but a 1/4 inch of the habaki. I feel resistance at 6" of blade exposed. I don't see any "rubbing" on the blade itself from coming in contact with the wood. Is the shirasaya WARPING? Has anyone else experienced this ? All my swords are in the same area , so room "weather" shouldn't effect one more than another? What if any remedies can be recommended, I've thought to have the shirasaya opened and re worked to fit better (but it's a high quality unit from Japan) Charles L. Grusovnik Further pics if requested Quote
Jean Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 I have the same problem with two of my swords, even three. I think it is due to Central heating. I live them alone. 1 Quote
Brian Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 Climate/humidity/seasons/temperature/altitude all affect the fit of the shirasaya. Coming from Japan, it will change with the seasons and I know some say they have never experienced this...but I have my own swords here that are hard to sheath in certain seasons, and loose in others. Quote
Stephen Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 Id get one of them rods one puts in gun casess to reduce rusting, place in yours and the sword to change humidity, then if that works one for the room? Humidifier that is. Is that man cave in basement? or upper floor? BTW damn nice sword!! 1 Quote
goose710 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Report Posted February 19, 2017 Thank You Gentlemen for your rapid replies. The "Man Cave " in below grade. With a wood stove at the opposite end of the 18' room. I did note , the heating vent(hot air) above the sword rack ! weird how stuff like that isn't seen . I will leave the saya alone for a time and check it from time to time . Thanks Charles L. Grusovnik Quote
seattle1 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 Hello: Beautiful sword! I note that it seems to go in tsuka just fine. A number of things could be at play, the cargo hold of the plane can really shrink them and that last a while, perhaps the wood had not been fully aged, if oil soaked the interior of the saya it might expand and that would not have effected the tsuka. I would leave it alone until spring and if it persists get someone like John Tirado to professionally open the saya up and make needed adjustments. He is very skilled. By all means don't push it against resistance. Good luck. Arnold F. Quote
Stephen Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 acclimate acclimate acclimate, remember a Tampa show where that Tin salesman, now decided, all the swords he had bought in SS would not go in all the way the wood needs to go back to org humidity conditions. That vent may be in PLAY! 1 Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted February 19, 2017 Report Posted February 19, 2017 Hello, Confirm, it's a change in atmospheric conditions. An annual/seasonal event. Two years ago we went from warm upper 60's to below freezing and snow overnight. Needless to say I didn't see my sword again until spring, but was unconcerned as there was nothing getting in or out of that saya. Snug as bug. Don't force anything in or out. Normally, whenever the humidity begins changing you must pay attention and adjust how fully or partially the habaki is seated into the saya. 3 Quote
SAS Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Dry air shrinks wood, humid air swells it. Mid 50s is supposed to be ideal if I recall correctly. 1 Quote
Dave R Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Do you keep your shirasaya in a bag? Quote
goose710 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Report Posted February 20, 2017 Dave No. Nagamaki I've seated the habaki only 1/4 in. You guys are great! Thanks for all the advice will keep a close eye on the unit. maybe block that vent first , it's closed but of course it bleeds through when the heat runs. Charles Quote
Dave R Posted February 20, 2017 Report Posted February 20, 2017 Traditionally shirisaya and koshirae are kept in bags. Shirisaya in cotton and koshirae in silk, this might help stabilise your shirisaya. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted February 21, 2017 Report Posted February 21, 2017 Could be time to get the shirasaya split and adjusted accordingly if it doesn't even out as season changes. Quote
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