Ruben Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 Hi Gentlemen, thought I will share my newest acquisitioing, nothing fancy but it has somthing to it that attracts me. I´am not realy a tosogu guy at all, but I fell in love with simple iron tsuba, Bushu Ito in paticular. This tsuba is not an ito tsuba, I couldn´t find out what it is. Clouds(Kumo) are a common Japanese motive and can stand for change for example. Saw some older tsuba with similar design in the past. Look for the wind at the first cloud, it´s so faint that it just appears in the foto. In hand the tsuba looks dark. It´s about 6,5 cm in diameter and 4,5 mm thick, shape is round, kaku mimi. Maybe someone can give me a hint what it could be, or saw a late edo tsuba like this before? Greetings ruben Quote
seattle1 Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 Hello: From the shapes of opens for the copper spacing adjustments it looks as if it might have a Suruga derivation. Just a guess. I don't think the design elements will lead to anything useful. Arnold F. 1 Quote
Teimei Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 Hi Ruben, well done, the simplstic design really appeals to me ! regards, Quote
rkg Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 +1 on Arnold's comments - By the end of the Edo period, the great uniformity or materials and the exchange of information/themes across the country makes it kind of hard to nail down who did pieces sometimes. Its funny - I only recently acquired the first piece i've ever had with this theme on it, though its a lot "busier" than yours - here's a writeup: https://www.facebook.com/Kod%C3%B4gu-no-Sekai-%E5%B0%8F%E9%81%93%E5%85%B7%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C-266005023454853/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1026149454107069 Best, rkg (Richard George) 1 Quote
Ruben Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 Hello: From the shapes of opens for the copper spacing adjustments it looks as if it might have a Suruga derivation. Just a guess. I don't think the design elements will lead to anything useful. Arnold F. Thank you Arnold, they look different than on many others, I was wondering about letting so much space on one side, but this seems to give a good fit. regards Hi Ruben, well done, the simplstic design really appeals to me ! regards, Hi Florian, thanks, I´am realy into the kage(negative) sukashi, started a small collection cause of it. Greetings Just my 50 cents..... One's of mine Thank you Bruno, a very "Samurai like" theme tsuba . Greetings Quote
Ruben Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 +1 on Arnold's comments - By the end of the Edo period, the great uniformity or materials and the exchange of information/themes across the country makes it kind of hard to nail down who did pieces sometimes. Its funny - I only recently acquired the first piece i've ever had with this theme on it, though its a lot "busier" than yours - here's a writeup: https://www.facebook.com/Kod%C3%B4gu-no-Sekai-%E5%B0%8F%E9%81%93%E5%85%B7%E3%81%AE%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C-266005023454853/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1026149454107069 Best, rkg (Richard George) Hi Richard, thats interesting, seeing this two common themes on one piece. Thank you. In my iron tsuba research I often stumble over nearly indentical pieces and I kinda like to compare them. I will post some when I find out how to add other pictures and if it´s of interst. Greetings! Quote
Ruben Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 Nara Tsuba Ito Tsuba all the Ito tsuba I saw or have show the same kind of iron. It tends to corrode rather easily. reagards ruben 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 Ruben,a small but 'hefty' TSUBA with KUMO design from my little collection. Some say it has YAMAKICHI BEI traits.The cloud design here stands probably for the smoke of incense, used in the respective game described in the GENJI MONOGATARI Quote
Kurikata Posted June 21, 2016 Report Posted June 21, 2016 Currently on EBay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/2668-ROUND-TSUBA-WITH-KOSUKASHI-menuki-kozuka-saya-fuchi-kashira-katana-/222159466454?hash=item33b9bc6fd6:g:g1UAAOSwvg9XZ4zA#ht_234wt_916 Quote
Ruben Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 Thanks Jean, indeed it looks like smoke. From where did you now it references to the Genji Tale? I´am just asking out of interest. regards ruben Quote
Ruben Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Posted June 21, 2016 Currently on EBay:http://www.ebay.com/itm/2668-ROUND-TSUBA-WITH-KOSUKASHI-menuki-kozuka-saya-fuchi-kashira-katana-/222159466454?hash=item33b9bc6fd6:g:g1UAAOSwvg9XZ4zA#ht_234wt_916 Not bad Bruno, thanks. Had itchy fingers for a moment ! Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Posted June 23, 2016 Ruben,some time ago, I presented my TSUBA here on NMB and asked for comments because I could not identify the design. NMB has always a wealth of very specialized iinformation available. It is "knowledge in the cloud" for me!This does not necessarily mean that your TSUBA's design is related to the GENJI MONOGATARI. It is only the combination of the two SUKASHI on my TSUBA Quote
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