Timur Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 Hi everybody, A question from a novice. Could anybody enlighten me the reason of the price of 1.500.000 yen for this kodzuka by Teijo (without certificate) fetched recently on Japanese online auction? Any idea what is written on the back? Val Quote
lonely panet Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 the owner really badly wanted it, and paid what he or she thought it was worth to them 2 Quote
Brian Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 Because if it's shoshin, that's what they go for? 1 Quote
Timur Posted April 5, 2016 Author Report Posted April 5, 2016 I see your point guys. Has anybody seen kozuka by Teijo signed on the front side? In gold? Without usual Goto reserve? Quote
Pete Klein Posted April 5, 2016 Report Posted April 5, 2016 http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p510085737 http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l345104071 http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n170401123 http://page19.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/x441749261 http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p510238812 http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f174898298 http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r148694762 http://page15.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/t469579106 My question is, if one bidder consistently overbids everyone, Whi bother bidding at all? PS: one person did: http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l345195902 Now then. The above transactions all occurred Sunday morning (04/03/16) and all were won by the same individual, who has been winning multiple auctions for several months now with the exception of the last one which fell to someone else after about a two hour bidding war and is also the item mentioned in the above thread. I have never seen a kozuka 'signed' by Goto Teijo in gold on the omote and I have grave reservations about it's legitimacy. Mainline Goto did not advertise in this manner as they were carvers/assayers to the Shogunate and any such 'mei' would most probably be an attribution from someone else. I cannot read the ura and pehaps there is some reference there. From what I recall none of the above items have origami. To me, this is someone with a bit too much money aligned with a bit too much ego and pride making risky/poor decisions which reminds me of someone running for President here, but then I digress. PS: there's a little pun included above for those who follow Yahoo!. PPS: watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6bwyILxtYA 1 Quote
Timur Posted April 6, 2016 Author Report Posted April 6, 2016 Thank you, Pete! And interesting investigation on Yahoo! I wonder was it technically possible to add the gold signature after the kozuka was produced, or is it a part of the initial design? Quote
Pete Klein Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Of course it is possible. Ford could do it with his eyes closed. 1 Quote
Ford Hallam Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 I'm flattered by Pete's confidence in my abilities and while I'd agree that adding such a mei post production would be relatively straightforward I would have to keep at least one eye open. More revealing, to me, is the poor quality of the nanako as shown on the close up of the flower, as well as the very weak carving of the veining on the lotus leaf. The flower itself is similarly rudimentary. No student of the Goto had anything at all to do with this kozuka. 4 Quote
Pete Klein Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 Ford, I agree with your assessment fully. Here is who I am almost certain is the same buyer (see above April 5th post) from this morning's (April 20) auctions, winning all as usual: http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l347228495 http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h224563810 http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l347126793 http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o141020592 http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f176273554 http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w138616902 The Yasuchika was a steal. Quote
b.hennick Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 Both fuchi kashira sets were great. Thanks for sharing Pete. See you in Chicago. Quote
Alan F Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 Wow! The Yasuchika was very nice. I love the bat fuchikashira. 1,500,000 for that supposed Teijo? Even if it were to be genuine, would it really be all that special? Alan Quote
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