Jorgensen Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Some pictures of a newly aquired Naginata with Horimono id like to share for your interest. Signature seem to be Kunishige (Mizuta school)... Im not sure which Kunishige... Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 That Horimono is different. I can't remember seeing one like that, going around. John Quote
DirkO Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 I would assume this poor horimono was done later (perhaps even in the West) to hide flaws. Quote
Teimei Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Hi Jimi, i think the naginata looks nice, just a bit put off by the snake. I saw a yoroi-doshi with a dragon horimono that was similar in style, but i forgot where. regards, Quote
Greg F Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 I thought maybe it was done in Japan and had been polished a couple times since? I agree it may have been to remove/hide flaw/s. I dont mind the blade though. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Greg Quote
Darcy Posted February 26, 2016 Report Posted February 26, 2016 Well Google Image Search for "snake horimono" was not particularly useful. Quote
John A Stuart Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 My eyes, my eyes. Darcy, what did you do? John Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 On 2/26/2016 at 10:56 PM, Darcy said: Well Google Image Search for "snake horimono" was not particularly useful. I have some issues about the missing seppas and it looks like they was never mounted. Theres a bat on the ura side of the tsuka. Why only on ura? I got this picture in a search.... Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 Could it be mounted for rebellion? Quote
Bazza Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 Looks like the kind of sword Keanu Reeves might use in his next movie re-writing Japanese history (just finished watching "RONIN"...). A friend long ago had a large wakizashi (Oo-tanto??) made I think by a high ranking samurai (so signed). The blade had a well-done horimono of a snake. A visiting Japanese collector of the time commented that it was not done by a horimonoshi, but more likely a mirror maker. A very interesting sword. I still have a full-length oshigata I made somewhere in my chaotic storage system. I'll try and find it and put it up for this discussion. BaZZa. Quote
Marius Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 I guess Darcy's picture is appropriate as a comment. Quote
Jean Posted February 27, 2016 Report Posted February 27, 2016 His right buttock must not feel brave as the snake on his left one is aims to strike it LOL Quote
Jorgensen Posted February 27, 2016 Author Report Posted February 27, 2016 Thanks for your comments. IMO the horimono seems to have seen some polishes, so it does not seems to be a newer addition to me and have been of better quality when newly made. If it have been made to hide flaws is difficult to say - maybe, maybe not. Does any have info on the mon / family crest? -I have searched and searched, but cant find anything on this particular one. More info on the blade / mei / which Kunishige will be much appreciated too. BaZZa... I would love to see that oshigata =) Darcy... pleease stop posting selfies haha 1 Quote
Darcy Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 They are calling these "snake horimono" ... but it in google image search and you will see!!!! It's all like that lol. Quote
SteveM Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 Family crest is called 菱に二つ引き (hishi ni futatsu biki), meaning just as you would assume: two lines in a diamond shape. Related crests, such as two bars in a circle, are associated with the Ashikaga family, so this could be an offshoot from that family. Bear in mind that the association has become diluted with the passage of time. https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%BC%95%E4%B8%A1%E7%B4%8B Quote
Brian Posted February 28, 2016 Report Posted February 28, 2016 Well...horimono does mean tattoo, so it is to be expected 1 Quote
Ian B3HR2UH Posted March 5, 2016 Report Posted March 5, 2016 The late Ron Gregory, who wrote the books on Military Swords, had a daisho with similar snake horimono on the blades .Interestingly the mountings also featured snakes entwined around the tsuka and saya. One blade was signed Awataguchi Tadatsuna dated 1652 and the other Kaneiye dated 1574 so the horimono were almost certainly later additions, The swords were illustrated in the sale catalogue of part of his collection and the Dai was also shown in the1968 Token Society catalogue . Ian Brooks 1 Quote
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