Wakizashi And Tanto - Need Help Recognizing

[Pika007]

So, two blades have found their way into my hands, and both received some.... unfavorable treatment.

Someone did a lengthwise grinding on a very soft stone to remove rust, and acid etched the hell out of the blades, no hada is visible from what i see. 

Still, i'd be glad to get some help at least putting a date and area on those....

 

Number 1-

a very, VERY thick tanto in very high quality mounts

 

Fuchi/kashira are blackened thick shakudo with gold highlights, so is the kojiri

saya is in excellent condition

wrap on the tsuka seems rather new- but it's 100% guaranteed to have been done before 1930, the saya is older, i'm thinking late edo. has a small crack in the lacquer that seems to have come from inside due to time passage, temperature differences etc.

 

 The blade itself- (edge down)

 

hamon seems suguha-midare with ko-nie, i didn't manage to catch them on camera, and if that's not the acid playing tricks- there's pretty extensive mune-yaki

 

Better nakago details here: (link so i don't overload the thread with huge pictures)

http://i.imgur.com/SZmvLn2.jpg

 

insane thickness of the blade can be seen here-

http://i.imgur.com/hF4mmH8.jpg

This is thicker than any katana i have owned. about 1CM thick.

 

Kogatana has a signature which i can't read properly-

http://i.imgur.com/UgR1SNY.jpg

 

Only similar things i have seen were muromachi, but i'm not sure about this one, seems much newer to me. Too bad the acid etch is so strong and is obscuring so many details.

 

 

Blade number 2:

 

Wakizashi, seems like it was a naginata before. Nakago shows signs of suriage, and from the patination i'm thinking this blade is very, very old.

 

 

 

Has filing marks on the nakago

 

 

And the kogatana has a signature, yamaguchi something, signature is rough styled, generally the kosirae seems showa to me, leather tsukamaki is old- but still feels like leather.

 

 

 

 

Any help with those will be much appreciated. The tanto interests me a lot more, i'll be happy to get any information or estimates someone has

 

Thanks

[Geraint]

Dear Ofek.

 

Didn't you do well!  I think both koshirae are interesting, the tanto looks to be in very nice mounts and I have to say I like the wakizashi mounts a lot.  I would suggest shinshnto for the tanto and I would get it polished.  Not so sure about the wakizashi but if nothing else a tsunagi for the koshirae,

 

Enjoy!

 

All the best