Yoshii school katana?

[Roland]

Besides the fact that I think of the Yoshii school as one of the most interesting schools of Bizen-den – based on the Osafune style but with their own interpretation of that – I just had a look at a possible Yoshii Kagenori katana at yakiba.com:

 

http://www.yakiba.com/kat_kagenori.htm

 

The original Fujishiro sensei kanteisho doesn't any more exist, just a fotocopy of it. Nevertheless it seems to be a quite interesting blade including koshirae for a interesting price. What I wonder is: As far as I know, the smiths of the Yoshii school tempered a very typical hamon – a narrow ko-gunome in nie or nioi-deki or later a round ko-gunome in a more or less regular pattern. The hada was mostly mokume mixed with itame. This blade is described with a ko-midare or ko-midare based on suguha. So my question: Do you think this could nevertheless be a 3rd or 4th generation Kagenori?

 

I forgot: The boshi seems to be more yakitsume than ko-maru...

[John A Stuart]

Hi Roland, I looked at the sword at 4x mag and do not get enough detail to make an attribution, for what that is worth. Super price and being priced at mumei still cheap. John

[Roland]

In the meantime someone bought it. And it was not me! Not so nice that I didn't receive any reply on my mail from the owner of the site when I asked for his conditions to put a Hold on the katana...

[John A Stuart]

Rotten luck.

[mike yeon]

Roland,

 

Don't get discouraged. As we always say, another blade will come along. I know for a fact that Ed is on the road (his day job) and has been for the past week. He's a good guy and his items move fast.

 

mike

[Brian]

I was in contact with Ed recently. He is away on business for a while, and correspondence can be a bit limited.

Great guy to deal with, and I'm sure the miscommunication was unintentional.

 

Brian

[Ken-Hawaii]

I agree with Brian that Ed is an excellent person to deal with on Nihonto. I have purchased several from him - including my favorite Sue Bizen - & he's a great communicator.

[Ed]

Hi guys,

Had a minute to look at the board and noticed this post.

Thanks everyone for your support on my behalf.

 

Roland, I am sorry to say that I never received your message. Even checked my spam folder to no avail. I have been a little slow to respond lately, but I never ignore my e-mails. If it is any consolation, there were 3-4 guys in line for the Kagenori. Again, my apologies.

[Roland]

Hello Ed,

 

my mail was send on friday, 9 pm local time to yakiba1(at)yahoo.com...

 

But there is no problem at all with that :-) The massively positive "karma" you have in this fine forum encourages me to scan Your offers continuously. There will be a new chance - or as Mike said "another blade will come".

 

Thanks a lot for your friendly response!

[Ed]

Hi Roland,

That is the correct address. It is possible that your message was in the spam folder along with a lot of junk and I accidently overlooked it prior to emptying the folder.

 

Please send another test e-mail in order that I can get you into my accepted list.

[Roland]

Mailed!

[Chris Colman]

Hi Roland,

 

Like you I have an interest in the Yoshii school, having purchased a tanto by Kiyonori a few years ago. The mei is Fujiwara Kiyonori, second generation Eikyo. It was purchased by a New Zealander in Japan in 1951 for the sum of 4000 yen from an "Authorised Sword Expert" M. Mishima, this is stamped in red on all the accompanying paperwork.

 

It is a text book example, small gunome with nie in the tani.

 

 

 

regards

chris[/img]

[Roland]

Thanks a lot, Chris. This indeed seems to be a textbook example of Yoshii school work. A lucky guy who was able to buy such a piece decades ago :-) As far as I know Dr. Honma Junji talks in his Token Bijutsu Koto-lessons of a Kiyonori who moved to Izumo Province and produced an extant work with the inscriptation of "Unshu ju Kiyonori" and the production date of Eikyo 2. Must be Your 2nd gen. Kiyonori.

[Gordon]

Hi all,

 

This blade may be Bizen, but it is very atypical of the Yoshii School. The Yoshii School typically produced a ko-gunome hamon called juzu-gunome or mame-gunome as it looks like a string of beads or beans -- rather monotonous. This blade looks to have a more notare style hamon.

 

Gordon

[Rich T]

Welcome to the forum. I know your contributions will be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[Brian]

Gordon,

 

Allow me to hijack this thread to wish you a warm welcome here.

I think we are very priveleged to have someone of your standing in the Nihonto community on this forum.

Thanks also to the guys at the Tokyo gathering who must have done their bit to "advertise" the NMB..although from the sound of things a few were assaulted by doors, floors and various objects, and some might not even remember they were at the meeting :D :lol:

 

 

I look forward to your input where possible given your hectic schedule.

 

Regards,

Brian

[Chris Colman]

Hi Gordon,

 

The hamon is ko-gunome, more visible when the tanto is in hand, and as you say quite monotonous.

 

regards

chris

[Jean]

Hi Gordon,

 

Very nice to have you on board and I would like to thank you for your contribution to the two volume Sue Koto books published by the JSS.

They are fabulous.

 

Now, on my waiting book list (dream ), I'd like to have in the same way :

 

Early Muromachi

Nambokucho

Late Kamakura

Middle Kamakura