Next Nbthk Shinsa

[SwordGuyJoe]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knew when the next NBTHK shinsa was taking place. I'm looking to try concurrent hozon and tokubetsu hozon if that matters.

[DirkO]

If I'm correct fittings shinsa is this month and combined Hozon+TH is next month. For the exact dates I suggest you contact Paul Martin, he'll know.

[Stephen]

Bob Benson goes with items as well

[SwordGuyJoe]

I read Danny's site, but if a sword has Tokubetsu Kicho papers, is it eligible for application for TH or does it need to go through Hozon first/at the same time?

[Ted Tenold]

Joe,

 

As of this year, the NBTHK no longer upgrades the old koshu or marutoku papers.  It must be resubmitted for Hozon, and have (or have passed) Hozon to achieve Tokubetsu Hozon.  Items can still be submitted for both concurrently in the same shinsa session.  

 

Also know that importation of Gendaito into Japan is a bit more complicated because they are not "antiques" (more than 100 years old like the vast majority of other swords that are imported.  They are therefore also subject to a value based duty upon importation.  

[SwordGuyJoe]

That's kind of what I had assumed. The sword is actually a Meiji era sword and it is in Japan right now, so it should be relately cut and dry.

[Ted Tenold]

Ah, that's good then.  Knowing your collecting focus I figured it was such so mentioned it for you, as well as others as it's become a more common question with the increased submissions of showa period gendai over the years.  

 

I've recommended to folks buying Gendai that are in Japan already, to have them submitted before sending overseas if having a paper is important to them.  They'll pay much less than sending it back to Japan later, and may wait much less time for the turn around also.

[Brian]

Thanks for the info Ted.

[SwordGuyJoe]

Yes - very good. Thank you ted.

[Paul Martin]

If the sword is under 100 years, it's just a matter of filling out a couple of forms for the tax office and knowing the right tax code to explain that it doesn't need to incur any duties as it is going back to the owner.

[SwordGuyJoe]

Excellent. Thank you Paul.

[Ted Tenold]

If the sword is under 100 years, it's just a matter of filling out a couple of forms for the tax office and knowing the right tax code to explain that it doesn't need to incur any duties as it is going back to the owner.

Yes, indeed, and having the person willing and able to do it in Japan! :-)

[Paul Martin]

It is all part of my shinsa and restoration services gents. As per another thread on here at the moment, I also always provide a translation of the papers.