bmoore1322 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Posted October 9, 2015 I just got this Wakizashi this week.Better then what I thought, very heavy and thick and robust meaty blade, beautiful black rust on the Nakago.And to make it better, it has a great O-Kissaki tip on it.I could not be more happier with it.It's going to need a Shirasaya, and not sure if I want to send it off for a full polish, it has plenty of polish for me, beautiful Hamon, and great Hada.Really nicely detailed Habaki also.The blade is Mumei, unsigned, and I believe it to be from the Shinto Era.The total length is 20.5 inches total.The width of the blade is slightly over 3.5 inches, close to 4 inches.I just need the tag that is glued on the Tsuka translated now.Of course I had to properly clean it.An very knowledgeable person said the following about it;His Impression is that this may be a Sue-koto sword rather than Shinto. The blade has a wide mihaba and a pronounced saki-zori. There are pools of mokume in the middle of the ji. I would guess that this a sword that is related to Soshu, such as Tsunahiro. The mokume placement is also a trait of Shitahara;Thanks.. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Brian,at a width of close to 4 inches, it is probably a HOCHO, a Japanese kitchen knife. The width of the blade is slightly over 3.5 inches, close to 4 inches. Quote
John A Stuart Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 More like 1.25" wide. 3.5 cm. It is important to read the correct scale. This is no kitchen knife, I guarantee. John 1 Quote
bmoore1322 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Posted October 10, 2015 Kitchen knife ????? Umm, No.. Quote
Brian Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Then correct your measurements If it was 4", then yes..it would have been a hocho. 4cm, right? 2 Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Looks like a naginata naioshi blade to me. 1 Quote
bmoore1322 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Posted October 10, 2015 Brian I posted pics above with the tape measure on the blade. How else should I change it. It is an inch ruler. Quote
Stephen Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 you read cm not inches, John told you 2 Quote
Brian Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 The width of the blade is slightly over 3.5 inches, close to 4 inches. This is what we are referring to No worries, we all know that you meant cm now. 1 Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 From the sugata I'm guessing Keicho shinto. Shinshinto might be another possibility but I think the patina on the tang and the hada is inconsistent with this. I read somewhere the these outsize blades were carried by sumo wrestlers who made a normal sized blade look ridiculously small but that might be apocryphal. In any case a very nice blade. Best, John 1 Quote
bmoore1322 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Posted October 10, 2015 Yes, I tend to read CM, instead of inches sometimes. My apologies..Here is an sketching I did to show the Hamon, as its really hard to see in the pics. I hope this works for all to see. Quote
hxv Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Very nice hand sketch Brian. I myself have two left hands. Hoanh 1 Quote
SAS Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Sugata is very curved, I too see it as a naginata naoshi blade, nice score. 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 With the HAMON turning back in KO-MARU, I doubt it was a NAGINATA. 1 Quote
bmoore1322 Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, from the research I've done online. I don't think it was an Naginata at birth either. I think it was born as an Wakizashi also. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Naginata-naioshi are not just naginata that were cut down. There were also swords forged in the naginata/nagamaki zukure. I agree that this is not a shortened naginata or nagamaki, but it was made to have that style. 1 Quote
Jean Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 In this case, Joe, we must speak of a naginata naoshi zukuri and not of a naginata naoshi. Generally when it is a naginata naoshi zukuri, there is the naginata hi. Furthermore this one has a yokote. A bg sori does not automatically lead to a naginata naoshi zukuri. 1 Quote
Freakdaddy70 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 Very nice wakizashi, I like the robustness of it. If only these things could talk, I love the mystery of antiques, and the stories that they hold. Adam 1 Quote
Gasam Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 I read somewhere the these outsize blades were carried by sumo wrestlers who made a normal sized blade look ridiculously small but that might be apocryphal. Heyas all, Aoi has a wide and thick blade described as such in part: "Mmarvelous gorgeous shape and healthy blade which is called Oni no Hocyo （Demon’s kitchen knife）. The blade is huge wide and thick healthy blade and it was used by Sumo wrestler I think." So maybe they were used by Sumo wrestlers then. Also reference to Hocyo, for the sugata. Cool. link is: http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-kikumon-ecchu-no-kami-masatoshi-kodai Quote
bmoore1322 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Posted October 31, 2015 And it's only $ 4900.00 WOW, I will be calling them this week.. I love that blade... Thanks.. Quote
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