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Mistranslation On The Book [Modern Japanese Swords: The Beginning Of The Gendaito Era].


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Hi Morita San ,

Re page 49

As a collector of Miyamoto Kanenori blades , I was led to believe that he wasn't awarded Teishitsu Gigeiin until 1906 ? Are you please also able to tell me when he received Shoshichii title ?

Thanks AlanK

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Hi Alan, 

Indeed, Miyamoto Kanenori and Gassan Sadakazu received their title "Teishitsu Gigei-in" (帝室 技芸員) in 1906. I can't see the whole date on the picture... Just ju and go, so what comes before that? But reading the reviews on Amazon from some of our members and then this, I think this book was rushed to publication. 

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AlanK and DirkO ,

 

You guys are right.

Miyamoto Kanenori received their title "Teishitsu Gigei-in" (帝室 技芸員) in 4,Aplil, 1906.(Meiji 39 nen)

Maybe the sword mei(date is Meiji 35/ 1902) on page 49 is gimei.

 

 

Jean ,

Thanks!

 

Here is the tang pic of Kanenori on page 49.

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That's what I was wondering Morita San ? Are you able to tell me when he received Shoshichii title & if it was the last title he was given before he passed away ? This information I haven't been able to research .

Thanks Very Much For All Your Information Morita San ! ????

AlanK

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Hello:

The Kanenori nakago is more than suspicious. In Meiji 35, 1902, he held the designation of Swordsmith to the Ministry of the Imperial Household and was not designated Teishitsu Gigei-in until April 4, 1906. It is possible that a faker knew only of the latter designation or thought that no one would know the dating dividing line between the two. Around 1920 Kanenori was ennobled as Sho, 7th rank. Kanenori was a very long lived and highly innovative smith.

Arnold F.

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