Jean Posted August 25, 2015 Report Posted August 25, 2015 http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-mumei-den-yamato-shizu 1 Quote
b.hennick Posted August 25, 2015 Report Posted August 25, 2015 More complex hamon than I am used to seeing. Perhaps that is why the Den in the attribution. Quote
Fuuten Posted August 25, 2015 Report Posted August 25, 2015 I can't speculate on the attribution, but its a very active hamon. The photo's showing it in the right light are quite stunning. Q: Would this perhaps be a juyo candidate? Or if not, what aspect is/seems lacking? Quote
tagheuer Posted August 25, 2015 Report Posted August 25, 2015 Wow.... It's simply beautiful. I wish I can get a hand on it. Quote
Ray Singer Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 Yes, quite a beautiful sword. I shared this one on Facebook last night as soon as I saw it listed. Interesting to see the sashikomi polish. As far as what it might be lacking to achieve Juyo, wakizashi are always more difficult to pass. Best regards, Ray Quote
jlawson Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 Yes very nice. However if we are talking Yamato Shizu you guys should also take a look at the sword that Fred Posted on Nihonto.com. I saw this at San Francisco just before it went up on the site and I can tell you the Hada is stunning. It may be the most active I have ever seen for this school. Really a great sword. http://www.nihonto.com/rh494.html Quote
bmoore1322 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 WoW, only $ 7933.00 U.S. dollars.. That's an bargain.. Quote
paulb Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 Sorry gentleman to be a voice of descent, I think this is a very strange example of a Yamato Shizu blade and unlike any other I have seen. It looks much more like a very loud Naotsuna piece. I am also not sure why such over the top and "in your face" activity is considered attractive. It almost looks as though the smith was producing a sales sample showing all the variations he could achieve. It totally lacks subtlety and refinement that I would really hope to see in a Yamato-Shizu blade. Just as well we are all different! 1 Quote
Jean Posted August 26, 2015 Author Report Posted August 26, 2015 Paul, Yamato Shizu blades can be very very different from each other. Remember the Juyo one which was to be kanteied during Robert Hughes' kantei session, last autumn, in Tokyo before DTI. It was very pronounced all masame hada (outstanding masame lines as if etched), this one was totally lacking subtlety and refinement. As you say, it is just a matter of taste This one could be a Juyo candidate but its drawback is being a wakizashi as stated by Raymond Quote
paulb Posted August 26, 2015 Report Posted August 26, 2015 Hi Jean yes you are absolutely right and thank you for reminding me about the one we saw last year ( I got that kantei wrong too!) As you say it is good that we don't all like the same things. I have seen some stunning Yamato Shizu blades including a tokubetsu Juyo work last year which was out of this world. Quote
Tokaido Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Hi, my fist idea while looking at the hamon and hada was: nice Naotane.. I did not expect this combination of very thight hada and almost sudareba style structures within the hamon/boundary to the ji in a YAMATO Shizu. Greetings Andreas Quote
jlawson Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Jean if I am not mistaken I think the one that is on Fred Weisberg's site is the one that we saw at the kantei session last year. It certainly appears to me to be the same sword. Quote
Stephen Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 James your link doesnt work for me, Quote
jlawson Posted August 27, 2015 Report Posted August 27, 2015 Thanks Stephen. Try this one http://www.nihonto.com/rh494.html Quote
Jean Posted August 27, 2015 Author Report Posted August 27, 2015 Yes James, that's this one. It was undoubtedly a Yamato blade but the hamon displaid Shizu characteristics so I kanteied it to Yamato Shizu. I missed totally the Unji and the Kotetsu ones. For the Unji, I went to Aoe school and I did not even place a bid on the Kotetsu, I had never seen or held one Quote
Jason Williams Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this piece of art Jean and members. When seasoned collectors have an informed discussion about an item such as this breathtaking sword it provides a good leaning opportunity for the novice collector. I look forward to one day purchasing an item of this caliber to study first hand. Jason Quote
Jean Posted August 28, 2015 Author Report Posted August 28, 2015 Should this sword be katana length, It will be a very good Juyo candidate. Quote
paulb Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 If I remember correctly I also thought the Unji was an Aoe blade but got the Kotetsu correct (more luck than judgement) I thought all of those swords, like the one originally posted here, were "not what you would expect" each having things that took them out of the norm. Based on condition and assuming the attribution is solid then I agree that were it longer it would be a good juyo candidate. The one on Fred's site has many similar features and I remember liking that a lot when I held it in hand. The image on his site looks much closer to the AOI blade than my memory of it. So it may well be I would warm to this one if I actualy saw it rather than an image. As it is the term "Tart's Boudoir" springs to mind (although I have no direct experience of such an establishment either ). 1 Quote
Jean Posted September 1, 2015 Author Report Posted September 1, 2015 it drew some competition http://www.sword-auction.jp/english/auction.cgi?acc=disp&no=1440461071&t=1213703271&acc2=history I wonder if the winner is a member of this Board Quote
Jean Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Posted September 13, 2015 http://www.aoijapan.com/tanto-mumei-unsigned-attributed-as-oishisa The deal of the week, wonder what will be the final bid. Quote
paulb Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 I saw this one too, A good looking work and to be honest I have never heard of Oishisa before (probably just havent looked enough) love the hada. I could almost be tempted Yesreday I saw a Shinshinto wakazashi that a friend had just bought from Tsuruta san, it was in excellent polish and a really beautiful work with a natural flowing hamon. Aoi certainly offer a huge range of quality on their site, Quote
Guido Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 ... to be honest I have never heard of Oishisa before (probably just havent looked enough) ... Mr. Tsuruta is being unintentionally funny: oishisa 美味しさ means (good) taste (of food). Try Ō-ishi Sa 大石左 . 2 Quote
Jean Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Posted September 13, 2015 Was very tempted on this one too, Paul Quote
paulb Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 thank you Guido I will fantasise for a while that it just meant non specific "good taste" 1 Quote
Jean Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Posted September 13, 2015 Newbies if you can offer it, rush and bid. There will be some competition taking into account the period and the blade quality. Could papered TH. Quote
Marius Posted September 13, 2015 Report Posted September 13, 2015 Please note that it has old papers. In order to get Tokubetsu Hozon it must obtain Hozon first. The old attribution might be correct or not. 1 Quote
Jean Posted September 13, 2015 Author Report Posted September 13, 2015 Nevermind Marius. All mumei blade is subject to change of attribution when submitted to shinsa. I always say first quality, the attribution comes second. What is interesting is the price compare to quality whatever it is. This one has an old koto feeling, the jigane is fantastic. Quote
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