Tokubetsu Hozon Tsuba On The Web?

[Curran]

Tokubetsu Hozon Tosogu:  Given the price of the papers relative to the value of the underlying object, I once said no one bothers with Tokubetsu Hozon papers for kodogu. "You can apply directly to Juyo with only Hozon". Well, things change. I'm eating those words now.

 

Price on Tokubetsu Hozon papers dropped while the USD vs Yen rate became much more favorable.

Also, now things need Tokubetsu Hozon before Juyo shinsa.

Yet there are very very few Tokubetsu Hozon kodogu to be seen on the web.

 

I'm overworked both professionally and in coordinating a civil matter. I'd love to just ditch and go on vacation, but cannot. I envy the jerks who get to go to San Fran in a few weeks.

Instead, how about a Stay-Cation? Would love to see some pretty stuff.

     Post links to any Tokubetsu Hozon (or Juyo) tsuba for sale on the web?   I'd like to see if we can come up with more than 10 of them. There's the Omori one on Fred Weissberg's site. After that?

Some people might come up with sites I don't know.

[DirkO]

http://www.wakeidou.com/smarts/index/10/

 

5 here to get you started ????

[Curran]

Dirk:  -I always forget that website.   Good start, but that is only 2. [surprised the Kyo Sukashi is TH]. Rest are sold.

 

Nice family behind that site. They were top floor at the DTI. I almost bought that flower Jingo.

    They do have many TH gold menuki!

 

8 more TH tsuba to go?

[Jussi Ekholm]

Tsuruginoya seems to have 4.

 

http://www.tsuruginoya.com/mn1_3/mn3_2_1.html

[Curran]

Found one: http://www.tsubanomiyako.jp/SHOP/T-289.html

 

It is a Tokubetsu Hozon Bushu. Not my cup o' tea, but there is #3.

7 more to go.

[Curran]

  On 7/15/2015 at 5:48 PM, Jussi Ekholm said:

Tsuruginoya seems to have 4.

 

http://www.tsuruginoya.com/mn1_3/mn3_2_1.html

 

Yep. I remembered the Nobuiye. They have some good stuff.

I forgot about the dark Jingo and that Kanayama. That ko-kinko should be TH.

So that knocks it down to 3 (or 4?) more to go?

[Fuuten]

Another 2 (if not more) here: http://www.nihonto.com/itemsaletsuba.html

 

It doesn't seem that difficult to be honest. Juyo tsuba are harder to find though.

[Curran]

Axel,

 

I wanted to nix the obvious ones of the 2 at Nihonto.com and the 2 at Aoi Arts.

Still, adding the 2 at:    http://ginzaseikodo.com/fittings.html

Another 4 here:     http://www.seiyudo.com/tsuba.htm

 

Gets us to 13? (17 if we include Aoi Arts & NIhonto.com)

 

I'm just bored while monitoring a few things. Killing time looking at tsuba and listening to language CD.

I've looked at about 2500 tsuba on dealer websites today and come across less than 20 Tokubetsu Hozon tsuba.

Surprised by the low percentage.

 

Where is a Juyo tsuba listed for sale?

[mdiddy]

There is even on on eBay! 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-HIGO-TSUBA-NBTHK-TOKUBETSU-HOZON-Japanese-Samurai-Sword-Fuchi-Kashira-/281711699936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41975367e0

[Pete Klein]

http://www.token-net.com/juyotoken/juyo-dai46tsuba-1.html

 

Juyo

[Peter Bleed]

Curran,

Thank you for a wonderful thread. Indeed, my personal approach to collecting (andmebbe my budget) is very different from your. I'm an archaeologist - I like to discover things and figure them out myself.

Your thread has shown me another way of exploring swords. Indeed, I think you have illustrated a wonderful way of embracing our interest, exploring the topic, and using the resource at our command!

Thanks

Peter

[SwordGuyJoe]

  On 7/15/2015 at 7:03 PM, Curran said:

Axel,

 

I wanted to nix the obvious ones of the 2 at Nihonto.com and the 2 at Aoi Arts.

Still, adding the 2 at: http://ginzaseikodo.com/fittings.html

Another 4 here: http://www.seiyudo.com/tsuba.htm

 

Gets us to 13? (17 if we include Aoi Arts & NIhonto.com)

 

I'm just bored while monitoring a few things. Killing time looking at tsuba and listening to language CD.

I've looked at about 2500 tsuba on dealer websites today and come across less than 20 Tokubetsu Hozon tsuba.

Surprised by the low percentage.

 

Where is a Juyo tsuba listed for sale?

Not a ton to add to the convo (as I'm not a tosogu guy), but seiyudo is excelent to deal with. And I don't know what it is about umetada work, but I'm a big fan!

[Antti]

http://www.e-sword.jp/tousougu.htm

On the bottom, Tokobetsu Yagyu.

 

[christianmalterre]

yupp! Curran

 

next one...(see picture)

 

still do play with the iffs and offs in catching it/ or not...maybe i am but to late finally...?

 

some (excellent!) Tok.Hozon still for offer here in Europe by the way...

 

(such Tokus do really not need to ben published via the commercial line... collectors do know eitherway about- so no need so far, to awaken the carps...)

 

Me

[Peter Bleed]

Curran wrote:

    Dirk:  -I always forget that website.   Good start, but that is only 2. [surprised the Kyo Sukashi is TH]. Rest are sold.

 

    Nice family behind that site. They were top floor at the DTI. I almost bought that flower Jingo.

 

So Curran, why didn"t you buy that Jingo Sunflower? It is terrific.

Peter

[Curran]

We're up to 20 TH now, so a good grouping.

 

Peter:     You cannot see it in the photos, but one of the petals at about the 2 o'clock position was curling or bend dangerously loose.

               On a careless day in a tsuba box or tsuba bag, it will catch and pull that petal loose. In hand that petal felt like a soda can tab sticking out.

 

Still, I shortlisted it and went to look around the DTI more.

Ford might have been able to brilliantly repair that little defect, but it greatly bothered me.

Instead I ended up buying a papered/published/ex-Gifu museum ko-mino f/k (H) that you'd probably like and a very early shakudo ko-kinko tsuba.

I felt that was enough.

      I probably should have bought that JIngo, but was moving towards more interest in early kinko works. Still- really loved it except the one flaw.

___________________________

 

I don't really care about papers too much, but others almost always want them if you ever intend to resale.

In the past I never bothered with TH, but since the price drop for TH and the gain of the $USD I've done it on three higher end kinko works I intend to keep (all purchased unpapered).

As Guido talked about once:  Should I pass unexpectedly some day, it might ease the sale for my wife or others.

[DirkO]

Here's another 4 for sale:

http://yushindou.com/%E6%9E%97%E8%97%A4%E5%85%AB%E3%80%80%E9%89%A2%E6%9C%A8%E9%80%8F%E5%9B%B3%E3%80%80%E9%89%84%E7%A3%A8%E5%9C%B0%E3%80%80%E8%8F%8A%E8%8A%B1%E5%BD%A2/

http://yushindou.com/%E6%9D%BE%E4%B8%8B%E4%BA%AD%E3%80%80%E5%A1%A9%E5%B1%8B%E9%A2%A8%E6%99%AF%E5%9B%B3%E3%80%80%E8%B5%A4%E9%8A%85%E9%AD%9A%E3%80%85%E5%AD%90%E5%9C%B0/

http://yushindou.com/%E6%B5%9C%E9%87%8E%E3%80%80%E8%98%87%E6%9D%B1%E5%9D%A1%E5%9B%B3%E3%80%80%E8%B5%A4%E9%8A%85%E5%9C%B0%E3%80%80%E9%87%91%E8%A6%86%E8%BC%AA/

http://yushindou.com/%E5%A4%A7%E5%B0%8F%E6%8F%83%E3%81%84%E9%8D%94%E3%80%80%E5%B0%BE%E5%BC%B5%E3%80%80%E4%BA%8C%E5%AD%90%E5%B1%B1%E5%89%87%E4%BA%AE%E3%80%80%E6%B5%AA%E8%BB%8A%E5%9B%B3%E3%80%80%E9%89%84%E5%9C%B0%E3%80%80/

 

As said - TH is not that difficult :-)

[Marius]

http://kodogunosekai.com/2009/03/03/ko-shoami-古正阿弥-sukashi-tsuba/

[Soshin]

"We're up to 20 TH now, so a good grouping."

 

Hi Curran,

 

Who is the we in the statement? I have speculating that you are one person and not a artificial intelligence trying to build a consensus because I have met a biological entity claiming to be you. I have long speculated that Guido is one such entity likely design by Google to watch Russian accident videos on YouTube and argue on the internet.

The chances of one person with multiple personalities having the same specific hobby isn't likely but if true is likely worthy of doctoral dissertation in psychology.

 

(Waring the above statement is intended as a joke only.)

I really don't have any other TH examples to share. Everyone else has already listed everything I was going to list. I have been in the position to purchase a TH tosogu but never have because I have found more interesting prices with old TK papers, NTHK papers, or had no papers. That might quickly change at some point in the future.

[Stephen]

Thanks for the laugh David HBD