Kai-Gunto Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 The nagasa is 71,5 cm long and 2,8 cm wide , 0,6 cm thick ,nakago is 17 cm long, Sori 3,8 cm. Shirasaya total length 101,5 cm. The mei is difficult to read ,its very faint. I dont have any other info on this blade. But would like to hear more any opinions are welcome. Quote
Brian Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Thomas, That's a beauty! Looking forward to more info. Looks very, very promising Brian Quote
Jean Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Yes, but seems very long, wait for measurement. Quote
lonely panet Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Im throthing over this one, cant wait for the next pics. how do get such good pics? im running at canon D-SLR EOS 1200D with a basic 18-55mm lense and I struggle to get such nice pics. please tell me your secrets regards H Quote
Stephen Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 One can only imagine the length of the ubu blade...very nice Thomas waiting for the other shoe to drop for sure. Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 So far, thanks for Your comments. Im not home right now and will put some more info on later today. It is indeed nice photos ,but I cant take the credits. Its from the auction House. Quote
Jean Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Hamish, The pictures are average at most. If you want to see good pictures see Nihonto.ca or Aoi Art web site or http://nihontofrance.com or Yakiba.com. Apart the nakago, there are absolutely no visible details of the hada or the hamon. The general view of the blade, is taken at such angle that IMO, it gives a false representation of the blade length, due to distorsion Quote
flo06 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Hi Thomas, It seems to be a very interesting Yamato blade. Hoping that you'll be able to take better Hada and Hamon pictures next shot, for the eyes pleasure Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 Im not good with a camera. The nagasa is 71,5 cm long and 2,8 cm wide , 0,6 cm thick ,nakago is 17 cm long, Sori 3,8 cm. Shirasaya total length 101,5 cm. The mei is difficult to read ,its very faint. I dont have any other info on this blade. But would like to hear more any opinions are welcome. Quote
Jorgensen Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 I looked at this blade the other day and are posting those pictures on behalf of Thomas. Pics are shot with my mobile, so please forgive me for the quality. Guessed at first glance it might be yamashiro or ko-mihare school, but... Quote
1tallsword Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 the last pictures seem to show a dark hada. leans one towards the northern provinces. chris mentioned Yamato. how about uda in the yamato tradition. mino? Quote
Jean Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Jeremy, You must have seen hundred of swords side by side to be able to spot a dark hada above all on pictures. Uda hada is unmistakable and rough compare to this one. Mino, I don't think so. Blades are less refined. Could be Yamashiro... Quote
cabowen Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Looked to me like the signature started out "Yamato"...I could certainly be wrong.... Quote
Jean Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Right, Chris. The first kanji looks like the Yama of Yamato. If it is, I'll go for Tegai school. Quote
Kronos Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 The sig does start out yamato, the blade I'm not so sure about. Quote
1tallsword Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 Jean, this is why I said the last picture "seems" to show a dark hada. we all realize swords can look different in different pictures. unless held in hand who knows. I do agree with you that the latter uda are ruff, however earlier smiths are quite nice and a lot better quality. regardless , I will stay on topic and say I like this sword very much. look forward to more info and pictures on it. I didnt catch the first kanji but you folks seem to have it covered Quote
Kronos Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 The second Kanji while not definitive is "close enough" that 和 can be made out as well. I could see it being Tegai, Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Posted December 14, 2014 Thanks guys, I will try take some better shots. This has been a very long sword once . I have drawed the habaki where it was mounted first time. The Line over the habaki is where the handle of the ken sword ends ,there are faint marks from the engraving. Quote
Jorgensen Posted December 14, 2014 Report Posted December 14, 2014 When we looked at the sword, I tried to write the (very faint) mei the best I could (yes! -I know im not good at it ) However I agree what James say, that the 和 (Tegai) kanji is not far from what I wrote... Here is the paper I did. Hope it may lead the investigation further... Quote
Marius Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 I think this sword may well be saiha. The nakago looks deteriorated, the sabi-giwa area looks artificial. Also, the curvature is a bit strange. I sincerely hope that I am wrong. Quote
NihontoEurope Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Yes, It is extremely very rare that the machi has been moved on O-suriage. Rarely seen. /Martin Quote
Marius Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 That was an idiotic remark on my part, apologies :-) As Martin has rightly (if ironically) pointed out, machi okuri is part of o-suriage. I have adjusted my post, accordingly. Thanks, Martin Again, my suspicion that this sword is saiha, is pure speculation, based on the colour of the nakago (or the sabi giwa, to be precise). I'd love to see the hamon - it looks dull in the pictures... Then again - the red colour below the machi - this could be just some rusting under the habaki... Quote
flo06 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 I see "Yamato" for the first two Kanji. 大和 Maybe Tegai school as some have already said. Quote
takakage Posted December 22, 2014 Report Posted December 22, 2014 Hi, For me, a strange and mismatch nakago on a shitahara blade. Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Posted December 22, 2014 The rust under the habaki is fingerprints when someone have takeing the blade out. Quote
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