Fun Set of Menuki...

[Kevin Adams]

The desire for personal validation is an astonishing thing, sometimes.

[Henry Wilson]

Brian selflessly gives as much as he can to this board and hobby in general. I therefore think that abusing Brian is a bit like picking a fight with the late Mother Theresa.

 

I understand how this hobby can get under your skin, but come on. Enjoy things. The title of this thread is Fun Set of Menuki after all!!!

[Soshin]

Henry Wilson makes a really good point Brian does send at lot of time on this website and I acknowledge via donations and thank him for that. I just don't find posting anything new from my collection on this website fun or productive for my hobby. Yes my attack on Brain might have been a little over the top but his smart ass response in the first place to my basic question wasn't at all necessary and clearly provoked my attach in the first place. I don't post any new topics and will never again post any new topics about tosogu to this website period. James Lawson you really need to read and understand all of my comments better in that topic you linked to.

 

I was just hopping to add a quick update to this topic nothing more which based upon the shinsa results validate what Ford and Kevin were saying in the first place about the set of menuki and goes against Roman's claim that the menuki were fake. I question why does anyone ever bother doing anything other then sending PM and checking Japanese sword show dates on this website...

[Brian]

You could start by calling me Brian, and not Brain.

I welcome the addition of the new info, in fact I was hoping for it. What is just plain unnecessary is a post (again misspelling my name twice) stating I hate bumping of topics, and then bumping it by asking if you can bump it?

Just post the damn info, instead of discussing the posting of info.

I retain the right to use sarcasm and wit instead of just losing my temper and handing out bans. Works for me, and keeps me slightly sane. See? Doing it again, instead of just deleting your post and banning you.

Have it any way you like David. You could have just posted the new info, and everyone would have been happy to hear the update. Instead, you made a production of it. By now you are running out of feet to shoot yourself in.

 

Brian

[Soshin]

No disrespect Brian intended. I fixed the typo because of my diagnosed learning disability caused by left hemisphere brain damage. I use a spell checker to help but it doesn't fix that mistake because "brain" is a real word. I had serious seizures as a young child which might have caused the damage. Sometime I just get letters backwards and I have trouble seeing it.

[Pete Klein]

As long as you have the menuki in Japan anyway you really should consider submitting them to the NBTHK shinsa in October for Hozon paper just to corroborate the validity of the attribution.  You are dealing with a big name here and menuki by Misumi go for high prices but without NBTHK paper there will always be doubt which will decrease valuation.  The price of the NBTHK paper will be more than compensated by the increase in price potential.

[Brian]

No disrespect taken, I get Brain all the time..every day. Just pointing it out.

And you should really take Pete's advice there. They seem to be well worth it.

 

- B -

[Soshin]

I will think about that. Was Misumi a student of Hikozo? I didn't find any inform about that, when I was researching my Hirata article for the JSSUS newsletter.

[Ford Hallam]

"By now you are running out of feet to shoot yourself in."

 

and it's good to see these menuki recognised as being decent quality though personally speaking I still doubt the Misumi attribuition on the grounds they're actually better than Misumi's work as illustrated in Ito's books.

[Soshin]

Hi Ford,

 

Don't worry my legs are just fine.  LOL...  

 

 

Putting all joking aside thank you joining back into the discussion.  Misumi is a bit of a phantom anyway not sure I agree with Pete's claim that he is a big name.  They don't even have a recorded birth or death dates only that he lived more then 70 years old which was signed on one of this works.  This is uncommon in Japan as the death dates are often recorded at the family Buddhist temple.  My wife says her temple has records of her family extending back to before the Keian Era.  Ito in his research even checked the domain's records and didn't find any information about him.  This is very uncharacteristic of the other major artists working in Higo Province.  My statement of the Keian Era is just that a estimate from reading Ito translated comments.  Right now I am going on the notion that Misumi has a very good month making these menuki.  From watching your Youtube video making a set of menuki using traditional methods I would say a month but I am really not sure how long it would take.  I find this set of menuki also attributed to him of a dried seahorse similar to my set.  They are published in Ito's book but I found this image searching Japanese Google with his name written in Kanji along with the term menuki "三角目貫".      

          

[Ford Hallam]

I missed the end of this thread in July but with reference to David's estimating that it would take about a month to make his tadpole menuki I'd have to correct that. Including the making of the shakudo alloy I'd estimate more like 4 or 5 days at the most.

[Soshin]

Thank you Ford Hallam for the correction, never made a menuki set before so my estimate of a month was just a guesstimation.  Just wanted  post a quick update and conclusion to this topic since my account looks to be unlocked and working again after Brian pulled the plug a few months ago.  These tadpole menuki passed NTHK-NPO Yūshu-saku Shinsa this month as informed by Paul Martin.  Needless to say I can't wait to get these menuki back from Japan.  These menuki will be displayed for reference only on my website: www.tsubaotaku.com .  I will post more information on my website as it becomes available as well a photo of the NTHK-NPO Yūshu-saku paper.       

[Stephen]

Welcome back and congrats on the yushu