giuseppepiva Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Hello everybody. I will soon add a nice shakudo Soten tsuba with unusual nanako rim to my website. You can see a preview in my gallery's Facebook page. Price is 2,500€ (within Europe) or 2,500$ (Outside EU). Quote
Brian Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Giuseppe, Beautiful tsuba. One of the better Soten ones. However, as per the rules here, please add a price to all for sale ads. Thanks Brian Quote
giuseppepiva Posted October 21, 2014 Author Report Posted October 21, 2014 Done! Sorry about this; I did not know I had to do it Quote
Kurikata Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Hi Giuseppe, USD 2500 is about EUR 1970 (todays $/€ rate). What is the rational behind the rate you have proposed ( 1 $ for 1 €) ? Thank you Quote
giuseppepiva Posted October 21, 2014 Author Report Posted October 21, 2014 Bruno, it's all about VAT (22%). If I sell within Europe, price must include VAT. If I ship outside EC, VAT is deducted. Giuseppe Quote
Jean Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 Stephen or Curran or Pete, What are the Customs duties for a 100 year old tsuba in the States? Quote
Mark Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 if sent to the US using US mail (Express) there is no duty, my understanding is there is no customs duty on antiques, when I have gone to Japan I brought a bunch of stuff back and had a letter saying they were antiques, when I explained this to a supervisor (some of the customs agents are not up on rules) they let me through - no charge. When I have items delivered from overseas there is never a duty is sent by normal mail but if sent through a shipping company (Fed Ex and others) I have got an invoice for duty, it costs more to dispute it so I just pay Quote
Jean Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 5,5% VAT on Antiques in France. So just have a gobetween in the States who buys it on your behalf and send it to you, you spare 17% or more Quote
christianmalterre Posted October 21, 2014 Report Posted October 21, 2014 you do can really call you "lucky dudes" there over the Atlantic! we here in central Europe do get taxed on everything!(we purchase or not) Italia is worst meanwhile! this "italian system" will but forcefully ben active equally to the rest here...(Jean in France)...(me in Germany)-sooner or latter! last times i did want to pay in cash 400.-Euro bucks,i got an straight(!) but corect (in front of their´s law) refusing to accept mine cash-payment by an Italian antiques dealer... he insisted so i shall either pay via creditcard or preferably via wire-transfer! LOL! you lucky dudes in US i just can say! Christian Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 In the Netherlands when I import an antique item with provenance from a non EU memberstate I am in the lower VAT of 6%. Does not matter from where I import it. When EU citizens buy from EU citizens or companies the VAT is in the price already just like Guiseppe stated. You pay in the country where you buy it. KM Quote
Brian Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 14% vat here, no matter what it is. Plus clearing fees. No duties on antiques, but there is still vat. Ironic that the Afrikaans word "vat" means "take" :? Brian Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 Still a lot better than : Bruto Toegevoegde Waarde (BTW) Literally translated : Gross Added Value (Gross turnover). KM Quote
giuseppepiva Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Posted October 22, 2014 VAT on import is different from VAT on sales in all Europe. If I buy an item from outside Europe (e.g. Japan) I can have a special vat rate on import (it's 10% in Italy, 5% in UK, etc). But when a gallery or a shop sells something the applied VAT is the regular one. Of course if the buyer wants the item shipped outside Europe, VAT can be fully deduced. Cash is a different matter: in Italy we are not allowed to take 1,000€ or more. You can imagine how fashion people can be happy about this, with all the Chinese and Russian buyers around full of cash... Quote
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