Tcat Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 Gents, this tsuba has two sets of papers, both NBTKH and NTHK. Attribution is the same on each. Can you guess what school it papers to Quote
kaigunair Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 I'm guessing the papers both make a "mumei" attribution... I'll also throw out a grab bag category : "shoami", mid-late edo. Quote
seattle1 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 Hello: Well, if the mimi were rounder I would guess something late Akasaka, but I would think perhaps late, very late, Owari. Someone by the way, thought a lot of that piece at one time; anyone care to guess why? Arnold F. Quote
sabi Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 seattle1 said: Someone by the way, thought a lot of that piece at one time; anyone care to guess why? Arnold F. Hard to tell from these pics but it looks like the nakago and hitsu ana are trimmed with silver. I also go with the shoami grab bag without knowing the dimensions. I would have gone Akasaka but I agree with arnold about the rim. The way the top sukashi design doesn't sit flush with the rim also makes me think it's not Akasaka. Quote
Brian Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 I am going to go for Shoami purely because I can't see both organizations agreeing with an Akasaka call. Brian Quote
Tcat Posted September 24, 2014 Author Report Posted September 24, 2014 Correct answer has been mentioned - will give it another few hours before the spoilers :D Quote
hxv Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 Quote I am going to go for Shoami purely because I can't see both organizations agreeing with an Akasaka call. +1 Hoanh Quote
christianmalterre Posted September 24, 2014 Report Posted September 24, 2014 LOL! very courious indeed... Christian Quote
Ford Hallam Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Higo - Nishigaki Kanshiro school, maybe early. Quote
Higo-san Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 My best guess is also Tosa Myochin ! Quote
Jorgensen Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 It has some Akasaka feeling...?? Quote
Tcat Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Posted September 25, 2014 Jorgensen said: It has some Akasaka feeling...?? Is that a statement or a question Jimi-san? ....all will be revealed.....soon Quote
Jorgensen Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Alex... It was meant as a statement. Look forward to the reveal. Soon please, are curious Quote
Michel D Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Hello everyone, I have not posted for a (very long) long time... Well, whatever the school is, my feeling is that its not a textbook school example . Now, my assessment: IMHO, the very first general feeling of the design is Shoami. But the kozuka hitsu ana is Higo or Akasaka. If you look at the nakago ana tagane and the sekigane, one can (may?) say that the (origina) kuchbeni was similar to the one found on Suruga,Akasaka and Tanaka tsuba. In despite the non vertical sukashi walls found on Akasaka tsuba, I would say uncommon Akasaka or Tosa Myochin. Now, I must chose between the two schools: Akasaka (in spite of the two vertical tagane on the nakago ana, often found on Tosa Myochin). I do not know if I gave the rod for my back§ Quote
Jean Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 I would have gone for Akasaka, like Michel. Quote
Tcat Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Posted September 25, 2014 One hint for all of you. I guessed Akasaka when I had the tsuba in hand. I was wrong. You have till 10pm GMT to change your guesses. Next post is the spoiler. :lol: Quote
Stephen Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 sure like to sttttrrrreeeeaaacccchhs us out huh??? Quote
Michael 101 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 Shoami very similar to Akasaka but still sticking with Shoami. Kindest regards Michael Quote
Tcat Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Posted September 25, 2014 Dear All, thank you for playing my little kantai game. Answer is Reveal hidden contents Shoami Photos of papers for non-believers next week! Quote
christianmalterre Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 LOL! That´s INDEED! the most sophisticated answer i did expect...(to say it honest!) mine personal call is Tosa Myochin! (seems i am not sole here in seeing that Akasaka lineage taste?) A very funny "market situation" happening todays indeed! LOL (no further comment from mine side-i do honorably link me out from any of these "politics" discussions!)-Indeed! Christian Quote
kaigunair Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 bleah given the time and $$$ to get those papers, one would think the submitter would want something more specific. that a hack like me could throw that out such a easy grab bag attribution....color me unimpressed with the papers. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 hah!...when in doubt say 'elephant' or Shoami. Meaningless 'attribution really. Might as well have said, 'Japanese, sometime in the last 300 years' for all the use it is. Quote
christianmalterre Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 "was kostet die Welt?" LOL! Christian Quote
Peter Bleed Posted September 25, 2014 Report Posted September 25, 2014 No one ever got fired for picking IBM . . . or Shoami Peter Quote
Michel D Posted September 26, 2014 Report Posted September 26, 2014 Hello everyone, The firing squad knocked my door, early this morning . It was nice to have met you! Quote
Brian Posted September 26, 2014 Report Posted September 26, 2014 And the answer is.... *drumroll*......... A TSUBA! Yes..it's a tsuba. LOL. I agree with Ford. Looks like both organizations are playing it safe nowdays. For my money, I would want better info than just "Shoami" Brian Quote
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